bought some AMSOIL today

[OutHouse]

I hope this stuff is as good as they and other ATOT members say it is.

http://www.amsoil.com

 

[Kadarin]

It has a good rep. However, you will not actually *notice* anything by putting it in your crankcase.

 

[Eli]

It is one of the best synthetic oils available at any price.

However.... there are some things you need to understand.

First, What kind of oil filter do you use? What kind of air filter?

How long do you plan on going before changing your new oil?

Where do you live? Is it dusty where you live?

How do you drive? "Granny"? "Spirited"? "Race light to light"?

Are you planning on doing oil analysis?

You have to remember that even the best NASA produced, military certified space age wonderoil is completely worthless if it has solid particles in it.

Therefor, I recommend you check and doublecheck your intake system. Make sure it's not leaking. Make sure all gaskets and sealing surfaces' rubber is soft and supple. Make sure your PCV and vacuum systems hoses are in tip-top shape, no hard and cracking hoses, etc.

Since you've already splurged, I recommend an aftermarket AMSOil air filter(get the pre-filter, too) for your car and an AMSOil super-duty oil filter.

If you want your engine to still be running like new as the car falls apart, get the AMSOil bypass oil filter system.

Absolutely under no circumstances are you to go their recommended 25,000 mile or 1 year oil change interval even if you change the filter after 6 months without performing oil analysis. It is the only way to truely tell anything definitive about your oil, how well it is working, how much wear your engine is experiencing, how much dirt is getting into your engine, and how much life is left in the oil.. amongst other things.

 

[Pepsi90919]

congratulations, you're about to waste lots of your time and money on a habit worse than crack, oil analysis.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Eli
It is one of the best synthetic oils available at any price.

However.... there are some things you need to understand.

First, What kind of oil filter do you use? What kind of air filter?

How long do you plan on going before changing your new oil?

Where do you live? Is it dusty where you live?

How do you drive? "Granny"? "Spirited"? "Race light to light"?

Are you planning on doing oil analysis?

You have to remember that even the best NASA produced, military certified space age wonderoil is completely worthless if it has solid particles in it.

Therefor, I recommend you check and doublecheck your intake system. Make sure it's not leaking. Make sure all gaskets and sealing surfaces' rubber is soft and supple. Make sure your PCV and vacuum systems hoses are in tip-top shape, no hard and cracking hoses, etc.

Since you've already splurged, I recommend an aftermarket AMSOil air filter(get the pre-filter, too) for your car and an AMSOil super-duty oil filter.

If you want your engine to still be running like new as the car falls apart, get the AMSOil bypass oil filter system.

Absolutely under no circumstances are you to go their recommended 25,000 mile or 1 year oil change interval even if you change the filter after 6 months without performing oil analysis. It is the only way to truely tell anything definitive about your oil, how well it is working, how much wear your engine is experiencing, how much dirt is getting into your engine, and how much life is left in the oil.

Its a brand new Camry with 1000 miles on it. the 10cent toyota oil will be gone sat afternoon.
I drive normal, maybe 5-10 over the speed limit so average 70 or so. the computer has my average speed of 38mph
I got the super HD amsoil filter with the oil
yes its dusty where i live. the town has dirt roads but its only a mile to the pavement and the town keeps them well maintained with something they spray on it to keep the dust down.
I plan on changing the oil every 10K miles
I havent thought about the oil analsis, how is that done?
If i install the bypass oil filter system, will that hose my warranty?

 

[boyRacer]

you got amsoil for a camry? wow you must love your car.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: bR
you got amsoil for a camry? wow you must love your car.

compared to my 1995 geo LSI, its like learning how to drive all over again.

 

[d33pt]

Originally posted by: bR
you got amsoil for a camry? wow you must love your car.

of course he loves it..he just bought it..

 

[isekii]

go 7500 intervals.

you dont seem like a leadfoot type of guy.

I am so I go 5k interval.
Mobil1 Synth.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Citrix


Its a brand new Camry with 1000 miles on it. the 10cent toyota oil will be gone sat afternoon.
I drive normal, maybe 5-10 over the speed limit so average 70 or so. the computer has my average speed of 38mph
I got the super HD amsoil filter with the oil
yes its dusty where i live. the town has dirt roads but its only a mile to the pavement and the town keeps them well maintained with something they spray on it to keep the dust down.
I plan on changing the oil every 10K miles
I havent thought about the oil analsis, how is that done?
If i install the bypass oil filter system, will that hose my warranty?

Where do you live? Need that for the climate info.

10k is probably a safe bet, but again.. there is no real way to tell without oil analysis. Oil analysis is simply where, when you change your oil, as it is draining, you take a sample of the draining oil into a small cup provided by the oil analysis company, and you mail it to them.

They send you back a report of all the different things they found in the oil. All the different metals, like aluminum, iron, tin, bronze, etc. The less metals, the better.. because they indicate wear happening inside your engine. Silicon is dirt. Zinc and Molybdenum are normal oil additives.

Under ideal conditions with the perfect oil, there would be virtually no wear ever inside an engine. But obviously that isnt possible.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: d33pt

Originally posted by: bR
you got amsoil for a camry? wow you must love your car.

of course he loves it..he just bought it..

well Amsoil is a hassle to get for me... even if i got a new car... i woud be perfectly happy with Mobil 1

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Citrix


Its a brand new Camry with 1000 miles on it. the 10cent toyota oil will be gone sat afternoon.
I drive normal, maybe 5-10 over the speed limit so average 70 or so. the computer has my average speed of 38mph
I got the super HD amsoil filter with the oil
yes its dusty where i live. the town has dirt roads but its only a mile to the pavement and the town keeps them well maintained with something they spray on it to keep the dust down.
I plan on changing the oil every 10K miles
I havent thought about the oil analsis, how is that done?
If i install the bypass oil filter system, will that hose my warranty?

Where do you live? Need that for the climate info.

10k is probably a safe bet, but again.. there is no real way to tell without oil analysis. Oil analysis is simply where, when you change your oil, as it is draining, you take a sample of the draining oil into a small cup provided by the oil analysis company, and you mail it to them.

They send you back a report of all the different things they found in the oil. All the different metals, like aluminum, iron, tin, bronze, etc. The less metals, the better.. because they indicate wear happening inside your engine. Silicon is dirt. Zinc and Molybdenum are normal oil additives.

Under ideal conditions with the perfect oil, there would be virtually no wear ever inside an engine. But obviously that isnt possible.

Thanks for the info. Ill go get a kit when i change out the amsoil in a few months.
I live about 40 miles NE of Denver.

 

[Eli]

As for the bypass oil filter thing, I do not think it would, since the filtration it offers is far superior to what the engine has stock.

But it would definately be something to look into. If it does effect the warranty, just wait until it's run out.

You didn't mention an air filter. If it is dusty where you live, it could very well be the most important anti-wear device your engine has.

I am not sure if using AMSOil's aftermarket air filters affects the warranty or not. That might be something else to look into.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Eli
As for the bypass oil filter thing, I do not think it would, since the filtration it offers is far superior to what the engine has stock.

But it would definately be something to look into. If it does effect the warranty, just wait until it's run out.

You didn't mention an air filter. If it is dusty where you live, it could very well be the most important anti-wear device your engine has.

I am not sure if using AMSOil's aftermarket air filters affects the warranty or not. That might be something else to look into.

It has the stock air filter in it. I was planning on replacing it with a K&N filter. How do K&N and AMSOIL air filters compare? Air filters dont effect the warranty, i checked into that a while back.

Also, i can not find a oil filter reference guide. The guy i bought the oil from didnt have the latest chart to match the filter size for a 2004 camry. so we guessed that its the same size for a 2003. He gave me the #57 one, guess ill call them tomorrow and double check.

 

[amdskip]

I run Amsoil in my 96 civic and my dad runs it in the rest of our fleet including my moms accord. We run the tranny fluid in our dragster and its absolutely amazing in it. Truck has it in all posible locations too like motor, tranny, and rearend I believe. I have not changed it yet since putting it in my car but I don't have that many miles on it yet, maybe 3500. I plan on changing it twice a year or so. IMHO, this stuff is much better than wanna be mobil 1 sythetic.

 

[tcsenter]

Use the dual bypass Hi-Lo filter setup from Amsoil. Then you might be able to achieve 25,000 mile intervals (with periodic oil analysis).

Or you could just buy whatever is on sale by the case with a rebate from Walmart and change your oil + filter every 3,000~5,000 miles, depending on your driving habits and climate.

Same end result in a passenger vehicle that will never see severe duty.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Eli
As for the bypass oil filter thing, I do not think it would, since the filtration it offers is far superior to what the engine has stock.

But it would definately be something to look into. If it does effect the warranty, just wait until it's run out.

You didn't mention an air filter. If it is dusty where you live, it could very well be the most important anti-wear device your engine has.

I am not sure if using AMSOil's aftermarket air filters affects the warranty or not. That might be something else to look into.

It has the stock air filter in it. I was planning on replacing it with a K&N filter. How do K&N and AMSOIL air filters compare? Air filters dont effect the warranty, i checked into that a while back.

Also, i can not find a oil filter reference guide. The guy i bought the oil from didnt have the latest chart to match the filter size for a 2004 camry. so we guessed that its the same size for a 2003. He gave me the #57 one, guess ill call them tomorrow and double check.

Probably a safe bet, but still be careful. Compare the new and old filters, make sure the gasket is the same size, and if it looks the same and you do use it, be sure and check for leaks after running the engine for a few minutes.

Don't get a K&N if you are concerned about filtration and live in a dusty environment.

According to real-world results posted at the Bobistheoilguy forums, people who use K&N filters consistantly find high levels of silicon(dirt) in their oil.

The theory being that if you have two air filters with the same surface area, the one that flows more air will also flow more dirt, due to the laws of physics. K&N filters' efficiency actually goes up as the filter gets dirty. It very well may be that they're cleaning their filters too much. Don't know.

Anyway, as far as I've been able to determine, oiled open-cell foam is about the best filtration media currently available. It has insane ammounts of surface area compared to paper, and quite a bit more still than oiled cotton gauze(K&N).

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: amdskip
I run Amsoil in my 96 civic and my dad runs it in the rest of our fleet including my moms accord. We run the tranny fluid in our dragster and its absolutely amazing in it. Truck has it in all posible locations too like motor, tranny, and rearend I believe. I have not changed it yet since putting it in my car but I don't have that many miles on it yet, maybe 3500. I plan on changing it twice a year or so. IMHO, this stuff is much better than wanna be mobil 1 sythetic.

Everything I've read places Mobil1 at the top or tied with Amsoil for best synthetic motor oil. Can you show us how Mobil1 is "wanna be" oil?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: amdskip
I run Amsoil in my 96 civic and my dad runs it in the rest of our fleet including my moms accord. We run the tranny fluid in our dragster and its absolutely amazing in it. Truck has it in all posible locations too like motor, tranny, and rearend I believe. I have not changed it yet since putting it in my car but I don't have that many miles on it yet, maybe 3500. I plan on changing it twice a year or so. IMHO, this stuff is much better than wanna be mobil 1 sythetic.

Everything I've read places Mobil1 at the top or tied with Amsoil for best synthetic motor oil. Can you show us how Mobil1 is "wanna be" oil?

If you get the proper AMSOil oil for your specific application, it should be better hands down, since Mobil1 is going to be more of a generic formulation.

 

[OutHouse]

^^^ Going up.

 

[Adul]

so what is a good airfilter for a dusty enviroment?

 

[Eli]

Ok, I've been doing some more air filter research, and have found some interesting non scientific tests...

First, forget about what I said.

Paper and fiber media filters filter the best. So staying stock is probably best, from a filtration standpoint.