Bought a new toy

KillerCharlie

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Estonia L190, 6'3", pretty awesome
 

IronWing

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USB 3 I hope?


Go get you a Professor Longhair album or two for inspiration. Also, congrats, hope you enjoy it.
 
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KillerCharlie

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~ $34K?

One of these days, I want to have capability to know what to do with something like that if I buy one.

About 10% less than that, plus I bought it from a tax-free state :)
Estonias are listed in piano buying guides as equivalent to American Steinways and high end European pianos, but costing about 1/3 as much.

I was to the point where I knew I had the capability to start taking advantage of a high quality grand. I also have the desire to continue playing and improving for the rest of my life. On top of that I'm young and single, so I decided to spend the money while I still have it. It's still a ton of money to me - more than I put down on a car+house combined. You can always sell if you have to. They do depreciate like cars, but not quite as dramatically.

I think the hardest part is that it's an investment in yourself - you have to practice a lot to get something out of it.

Having the ability to play at that level is within anyone's reach. Sure innate talent factors in to some extent, but everyone gets to where they are by practicing - a lot. I'm hoping to put in ~2 hrs/day now.
 
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mnewsham

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Having the ability to play at that level is within anyone's reach. Sure innate talent factors in to some extent, but everyone gets to where they are by practicing - a lot. I'm hoping to put in ~2 hrs/day now.

True for most things, when I was fencing heavily I would fence 4 days a week 6 hours a day. At that pace I was getting surprisingly good after only 4-6 months with that routine.
Practice practice practice :p
 

brianmanahan

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grats! i like the estonias, but tbh i am more fond of the seilers. concerned about future quality though, given their recent troubles.

i have played a 186 and a 208 that i just absolutely loved to death. such a good touch and a clear beautiful sound.

if i ever save up 1$ million, i have told myself that i will be allowed to buy one
 
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skyking

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Very nice, Charlie.
I took lessons at too young an age and it did not stick, I simply was not interested. Now I wish I had continued on.
Our family piano was lost in a fire.
 

KillerCharlie

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grats! i like the estonias, but tbh i am more fond of the seilers. concerned about future quality though, given their recent troubles.

i have played a 186 and a 208 that i just absolutely loved to death. such a good touch and a clear beautiful sound.

if i ever save up 1$ million, i have told myself that i will be allowed to buy one

I am really hit and miss on European pianos. Sometimes I like their clear sounds, but sometimes I long for the rich overtones of a Steinway. The Estonia is somewhere in between those two ends.

If I had more money there are definitely other pianos I would buy. Estonia's quality/price ratio obliterated everyone else though! I guess labor costs are a significant portion of American and Western European pianos. Labor rates are much lower in Estonia.

Some people are shocked that high end pianos cost more than a car. I feel that, when placed side-by-side, a car is a rip off compared to a nice piano.

I got to play on an imperial Bosendorfer, which have the extra keys in the bass. One of them had carvings in the case and legs plated in gold. Now THAT was excessive! I think the MSRP on that is like $250k.
 
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KillerCharlie

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Very nice, Charlie.
I took lessons at too young an age and it did not stick, I simply was not interested.

I think that goes for most people. My parents forced me to take lessons. I didn't abhor them - they did stick, but if it was up to me I would've quit in my 3rd year.

No kid wants to take piano lessons, but no one regrets having taken lessons as a kid as soon as they hit their 20s.

If anyone is in Seattle and wants to play, my house is open!
 

SSSnail

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Now, record something damn it!!!

Go with something easy first, like Moonlight Sonata...






third movement. :p
 

KillerCharlie

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Now, record something damn it!!!

Go with something easy first, like Moonlight Sonata...

third movement. :p

That's on my list to learn, maybe in a year or two though. I need this piano heavily voiced and I need to buy some good microphones before I record - I've spent enough money for a while!
I think my first recording will be Chopin's minute waltz.
 

brianmanahan

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i took lessons till i was 15 or 16, then have played just about every day since then for fun

try to learn to play by ear - it is one of the best ways to maintain interest, because after a while you can play literally any popular song by ear within a few minutes. also helps with transposing songs to other keys if you want to play with people singing or playing other instruments
 

skyking

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I think that goes for most people. My parents forced me to take lessons. I didn't abhor them - they did stick, but if it was up to me I would've quit in my 3rd year.

No kid wants to take piano lessons, but no one regrets having taken lessons as a kid as soon as they hit their 20s.

If anyone is in Seattle and wants to play, my house is open!
A friend has a cheap electronic keyboard for me to pick up. After I find the end of my fingers again I'll take you up on that :)
 

brianmanahan

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Now, record something d**n it!!!

Go with something easy first, like Moonlight Sonata...






third movement. :p

lol, i still cant play the third movement

used to be a lot better till i had brain surgery, which messed up my left hand timing on anything with a really fast tempo
 

HeXen

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~ $34K?

One of these days, I want to have capability to know what to do with something like that if I buy one.

I saw one made of Oak with Ivory keys on it for sale in Sears and Roebuck catalogue 1896 or 98 for like $22.
Inflation has inflated.

Meanwhile, i'll just play this little Piano app on my iPad for free and call it a day.