Bought a new Freesync monitor, need to upgrade video card to notice 144hz?

felix5

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I just bought a new freesync 144hz monitor (24" Asus MG248Q). I am not noticing the improvement in 144hz, eventhough I have set it to 144hz in windows (confirmed on monitor OSD), connected via DisplayPort with supplied cable, and tested 144hz at http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates

Is it because I need to upgrade my video card and mouse? I am using onboard video (Zotac ID68-PLUS Mini PC) and a cheap Logitech mouse.
 

Bacon1

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What are you expecting to see exactly?

Moving windows around should be noticable with no ghosting.

You can't use Freesync unless you get an AMD card, so you won't get those benefits when gaming, but sounds like onboard video you aren't gaming anyway.
 

DooKey

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IIRC you need AMD 2XX/3XX or Fury or FuryX or Nano to use freesync.
 

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I'm not seeing any difference in Windows (haven't tried gaming yet). I heard it's suppose to be noticeably smoother in Windows. I do notice my computer boots up faster now though (compared to my previous 2560x1440 Dell IPS monitor).
 

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If you move your mouse around as fast as possible you should see you're able to track it better. But really, I have no idea why you would buy a 144hz Freesync monitor when the MAIN application is gaming....

How are you going to be able to do that on a PC that you can't use a graphics card with....
 

Midwayman

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Well, that looks like it has an intel HD 4400. Quick google suggests it only supports 60hz.
 

Bacon1

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I'm not seeing any difference in Windows (haven't tried gaming yet). I heard it's suppose to be noticeably smoother in Windows. I do notice my computer boots up faster now though (compared to my previous 2560x1440 Dell IPS monitor).

Your computer won't boot faster because of the monitor... The only thing you'll notice is better response times when doing things like dragging windows around. You shouldn't get any ghosting or a blur effect like you would when dragging them very fast around the screen
 

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Assuming you do game on your PC, you will need to select a resolution that specifies 144MHz in whatever game you are playing.

To take advantage of FreeSync you'll need one of the following video cards:

All AMD Radeon™ graphics cards in the AMD Radeon™ HD 7000, HD 8000, R7 or R9 Series will support AMD FreeSync™ technology for video playback and power-saving purposes. The AMD Radeon™ R9 295X2, 290X, R9 290, R9 285, R7 260X and R7 260 GPUs additionally feature updated display controllers that will support dynamic refresh rates during gaming.
 

felix5

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Well, that looks like it has an intel HD 4400. Quick google suggests it only supports 60hz.

Thank you. I guess it really is a problem with the video then. Strange how I can still set it in Windows display properties. The picture also looks too bright for some reason, even on the other new monitor (both monitors look fine on the other computer, so must be something wrong with this PC).

I was planning to upgrade my PC in the near future, but first wanted to see the improvement of the 144hz as I needed a new monitor anyway. And I will definitely get an AMD ATI video card if I do upgrade.
 

Udgnim

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I don't really notice 144 Hz in Desktop

144 Hz is extremely noticeable in games that can run high FPS like CS:GO though
 

topmounter

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I don't really notice 144 Hz in Desktop

144 Hz is extremely noticeable in games that can run high FPS like CS:GO though

Yep, in-game is the only place I really notice 144MHz. I bought a 32" 1440p 60MHz panel and sent it back after realizing just how much I missed the 144 MHz refresh rate of my 24" 1080p panel.
 

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Wow, 144hz is extremely noticeable vs 60 hz on the desktop. Just move your cursor around or drag a window.

For the people who claim they can't notice it; try this, move your mouse around quickly on the desktop and drag some windows around quickly. Then immediately do the same thing on a computer using a 60hz monitor.

It's like HD. When you get used to it you don't notice the upgrade as much as you notice when you're forced to downgrade (SD looks a lot worse now that I've experienced HD)
 

topmounter

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Wow, 144hz is extremely noticeable vs 60 hz on the desktop. Just move your cursor around or drag a window.

For the people who claim they can't notice it; try this, move your mouse around quickly on the desktop and drag some windows around quickly. Then immediately do the same thing on a computer using a 60hz monitor.

It's like HD. When you get used to it you don't notice the upgrade as much as you notice when you're forced to downgrade (SD looks a lot worse now that I've experienced HD)

I'll have to try that, but my gaming PC doesn't get used for much except gaming.
 

sm625

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Assuming you do game on your PC, you will need to select a resolution that specifies 144MHz in whatever game you are playing.

Isn't that taking the refresh rate a little too far? I think even 144KHz would be 100 times pure overkill.
 

Midwayman

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Isn't that taking the refresh rate a little too far? I think even 144KHz would be 100 times pure overkill.

Nah, think of the motion clarity at 144mhz. It would be way better than a CRT. That's 6.944 nanoseconds per refresh! Sign me up!
 

bystander36

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But it would need to be wired to your visual cortex. Optic nerve too slow.

The whole point is to be so fast that you can't pickup any sync issues. If you could precisely perceive that refresh rate, then you'd still need v-sync/gsync/freesync.
 

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So even if the game does not support 144hz (let's say an old game like Diablo II), would I notice a difference with a 144hz monitor and video card? Maybe easier on the eyes to look at?
 

bystander36

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So even if the game does not support 144hz (let's say an old game like Diablo II), would I notice a difference with a 144hz monitor and video card? Maybe easier on the eyes to look at?

I would believe D2 would still work at 120hz at least. That game was back in the era where the standard refresh rate was probably closer to 75-85hz. If it does support 120hz, you'd hardly notice a difference between 120hz and 144hz.
 

felix5

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Thanks. So I guess not much difference between 144hz and 165hz? I notice G-Sync supports 165hz but not Freesync.
 

felix5

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I saw this 165hz g-sync : ASUS PG279Q ROG Swift 27"

Hope there will be more 24" IPS options though.
 

bystander36

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I wouldn't put any added credence in anything over 120hz when picking a monitor. Most will be 144hz, but the added viewing value is almost 0.