Both parties love racial tribalism. That's truth.

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JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Which party implements identity politics, places people into positions where they may not be qualified anywhere else?

Which party smeared every police officer in the country and then gets surprised when 90% of cops vote GOP and some of them, yes, went to the Jan. 6 riot?
You are delusional! Seek professional help!!
 

Torn Mind

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Democrats have to pretend they are against the police. They actually want the police to be the ONLY armed folks in this country. Just call 911. Attempted murder always takes longer than the drive to get to your location.
 

Meghan54

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Democrats have to pretend they are against the police. They actually want the police to be the ONLY armed folks in this country. Just call 911. Attempted murder always takes longer than the drive to get to your location.

So, when you got no truth or facts to peddle, just spew bullshit, amiright?
 
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Lifer
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So, when you got no truth or facts to peddle, just spew bullshit, amiright?
I care about the de facto results, not the front or facades.

Police proper are established by the executive branch and supersede what used to be the responsibility the elected sheriff departments. It just so happens that some of the most wretched departments of police are also Democratic cities. LA, Chicago, Baltimore.

Presuming there is systemic racism, why do Democrats support laws that can be abused to throw them in jail for illegal possession of a gun? Because the populace doesn't think on a de facto level who gets hit by the law they support and how.

Your belligerence is lacking in a target and colored me unimpressed that your feelings got triggered so easily.
 

pmv

Lifer
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Which party implements identity politics, places people into positions where they may not be qualified anywhere else?

That appears to be the Republicans. How many useless sycophants did Trump appoint? And since when was Trump himself qualified for anything at all? What is Trumpism other than race, class, and geography based identity politics? The Republicns are 80% about 'identity politics' (and 20% about serving the plutocrats)


Which party smeared every police officer in the country and then gets surprised when 90% of cops vote GOP and some of them, yes, went to the Jan. 6 riot?

Cops in the US have been racist and conservative since the days when the Democrats were the pro-slavery party, it's not a new development. You have the order of things back-to-front.
 

HomerJS

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Democrats have to pretend they are against the police. They actually want the police to be the ONLY armed folks in this country. Just call 911. Attempted murder always takes longer than the drive to get to your location.
Assertion not evidenced by the facts. Democrats AFAIK have never had as a policy position outlawing all guns.

A more accurate point of fact Republicans were only interested in gun control when black organizations were arming themselves.
 

shortylickens

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I care about the de facto results, not the front or facades.

Police proper are established by the executive branch and supersede what used to be the responsibility the elected sheriff departments. It just so happens that some of the most wretched departments of police are also Democratic cities. LA, Chicago, Baltimore.

Presuming there is systemic racism, why do Democrats support laws that can be abused to throw them in jail for illegal possession of a gun? Because the populace doesn't think on a de facto level who gets hit by the law they support and how.

Your belligerence is lacking in a target and colored me unimpressed that your feelings got triggered so easily.
you're so cute.

Like paris hilton.
 
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Meghan54

Lifer
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That appears to be the Republicans. How many useless sycophants did Trump appoint? And since when was Trump himself qualified for anything at all? What is Trumpism other than race, class, and geography based identity politics? The Republicns are 80% about 'identity politics' (and 20% about serving the plutocrats)




Cops in the US have been racist and conservative since the days when the Democrats were the pro-slavery party, it's not a new development. You have the order of things back-to-front.

You ought to read this....police depts. have in their history a much deeper connection to racism than you might think. Ever heard of slave patrols?

 
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Lifer
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I care about the de facto results, not the front or facades.

Police proper are established by the executive branch and supersede what used to be the responsibility the elected sheriff departments. It just so happens that some of the most wretched departments of police are also Democratic cities. LA, Chicago, Baltimore.

Presuming there is systemic racism, why do Democrats support laws that can be abused to throw them in jail for illegal possession of a gun? Because the populace doesn't think on a de facto level who gets hit by the law they support and how.

Your belligerence is lacking in a target and colored me unimpressed that your feelings got triggered so easily.
still pedaling your bull shit I see...
 

Indus

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Democrats run on identity politics, bashing police and firefighters, etc.

Republicans run on bashing LGBTQ people and immigrants.

Both parties are causing more unrest.

Jan. 6 was caused by economic and social unrest

Both parties love racial tribalism.....cool it, will ya....

FUCK NO. Not until 74 million trumpanzees are sent to the zoo!
 

shortylickens

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this guy is clearly a cheap bot or a cheap professional troll.
we need to stop reading his posts.
 
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I wish I could give the OP a brain,
the lack of one drives me insane,
won't someone releave his pain,
only so I can feel more sane.
 

pmv

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this guy is clearly a cheap bot or a cheap professional troll.
we need to stop reading his posts.

But AI is an interesting topic. I'm curious to see if it might manage to construct something approaching a meaningful comment at some point - and if so, if one can work out how it's doing it.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Which party implements identity politics, places people into positions where they may not be qualified anywhere else? --- Republicans!! Betsy DeVos is one example......along with those big money donors that Trump gave jobs too!

Which party smeared every police officer in the country and then gets surprised when 90% of cops vote GOP and some of them, yes, went to the Jan. 6 riot? --- again you are being disingenuous! Nobody smeared every Police officer! Policer did not show up for the January 6yth riots because they were not asked to show up! Every Police officer scheduled to show up to work at the capitol showed! It was the Republican's leadership who downplayed the events at the capitol!!
Like I said previously ---- crawl back under the rock where you came from.....
 
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Vic

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It's the Dems that bring up nonsense like LGBTQ and BLM, etc. when no one else gives a damn...how about that.....

Instead of creating white vs black enemy lines, talk about the economy

If "no one else" besides the Dems gives a damn about LGBTQ and BLM, then why do so many Republicans constantly demand that LGBTQ be outlawed and locked up as "deviant" or "mentally ill," or claim that "thugs" like George Floyd deserve to be murdered by police? Seems to me like they really do give a damn, just not in a good way.
And please don't try to pretend those Republicans don't exist, because they are very numerous and very vocal.
 
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Vic

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Democrats have to pretend they are against the police. They actually want the police to be the ONLY armed folks in this country. Just call 911. Attempted murder always takes longer than the drive to get to your location.

I'm a gun owner and pro-2a, and voted for Biden. And I'm far from alone. How do you explain that?
Plus, this last election proved that the only reason Republicans are pro-2a is that they can try to overthrow the govt if they lose.
 
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Vic

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BTW, a recent news event, and the public reaction to it, really demonstrated IMO what partisan racial tribalism in America looks like today. It was when Dems were outraged when a school official yelled "fuck n****rs!" over a PA at some schoolchildren at a public event, while Repubs were outraged because the schoolchildren were kneeling for the anthem.
Both sides, amirite? Totes the same.
 
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Lifer
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Democrats have to pretend they are against the police. They actually want the police to be the ONLY armed folks in this country. Just call 911. Attempted murder always takes longer than the drive to get to your location.
DUDE!! Just because somebody want more thorough background check or to limit the amount of ammo a clip can hold all you gun nutters go berserk!
No the Democrats don`t want to defund the Police....in actuality they want to reform the Police.....they want to do away with qualified immunity....
Do Democrats want to defund the police? Joe Biden’s plan calls for more police. - Vox

PolitiFact | Joe Biden says he doesn’t want to defund police

The "defund" movement calls on local governments to shift spending on law enforcement to programs that address economic and social issues for minorities. In Minneapolis, a veto-proof majority of city council members pledged to replace the city’s police department with a community-based public safety model following protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.

But Biden told "CBS Evening News" anchor Norah O’Donnell that he does not intend to defund the police in a clip the program aired on June 8.

"No, I don’t support defunding the police," Biden said. "I support conditioning federal aid to police based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency and honorableness and, in fact, are able to demonstrate they can protect the community and everybody in the community."

Earlier that day, Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates addressed Trump’s claims by saying that Biden "does not believe that police should be defunded."
 

Vic

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I don't like the term "defund the police," because it's an inaccurate description of the actual intention of off-loading non-emergency services from the police. But at the same time, there's a huge irony in self-labelled "libertarian" "small govt conservatives" getting triggered over the possibility of paying less taxes to govt agencies, so it's kinda humorous to see that.
 

pmv

Lifer
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I don't like the term "defund the police," because it's an inaccurate description of the actual intention of off-loading non-emergency services from the police. But at the same time, there's a huge irony in self-labelled "libertarian" "small govt conservatives" getting triggered over the possibility of paying less taxes to govt agencies, so it's kinda humorous to see that.

Well, that's the one thing 'libertarians' and 'small government conservatives' think the state should do - help them hang on to their loot. More interesting are the real hard-core anarcho-capitalists, who want private police, i.e. competing criminal gangs fighting each other on an organised-basis. Which at least presents an interesting scenario for fantasy/SF drama (even if it doesn't sound that pleasant a world to actually live in)
 

Vic

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Meanwhile, a prominent Senator from the party that supposedly doesn't care about race just came out and said that the only reason he's not concerned about what happened on Jan 6 is because the insurrectionists were predominately whites protesting for white nationalism. But if they had been BLM, then he would have been concerned.
And clearly there's nothing racist about that and no one else but the Dems cares about race, right?