Boston woman sues for child-rearing costs after failed abortion

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: purbeast0
I disagree with the OP.

I think this is a very legit lawsuit. She paid for an abortion from a doctor and she didn't get the abortion. It had to be a huge mistake on the doctors part to not know that the baby wasn't aborted.

This is just like suing for any other kind of medical malpractice, and this one probably has a much longer lasting effect than many other malpractices. I hope she wins.

I can understand suing for the failed abortion but not for the child rearing costs. As others have stated, adoption is a viable option if she doesn't want to be a mother.

You're ignoring the emotional element. It's hard knowing that you have a child that you can't see.

Possibly. But she still had an option on whether or not she wanted to be a parent. If she chooses to be a parent then she shouldn't be holding anybody responsible for raising the child other than herself and the father.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused
If you Google the story, other versions have PP admitting fault.

A couple hundred grand is NOT too much to ask for such a blatant case of incompetence.

a couple hundred grand would be reasonable but do you honestly think she would only ask for a couple hundred grand? Most likely she will request a couple million for "child raising expenses"

Actually, I think the court would look up the averages for child rearing expenses and base their award on that.

You can't just pull a number out of your ass, contrary to popular notion.

You forget this is boston. People can pull whatever they want out of their ass and usually get away with it. I see people win retarded lawsuits all the time here.

Like I said, the award amount MUST be based on something. If compensatory, the award must be based on real costs. If punitive, the award must be based on the income/worth of the defendant. Yes, even in Boston.

 

[moshquerade]

adoption, stat.

she didn't want the child so i don't want to hear the song and dance that now that the kid is born she loves it. if anyone wants to play that card then it should also be something to seriously think about for everyone considering an abortion.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: AgentJean

Originally posted by: KaChow

Originally posted by: AgentJean
http://wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=6190310

This women is clearly unfit to raise a child and will likely use any money collected to fund a drug habbit.

Where did this drug habit thing come from?

Just speculation, but I have a feeling I'm not far off. If she had any sence of responsibility she would have put the child up for adoption after the abortion failed if she could not "afford" to raise the child.

How do you think the kid is going to feel years from now when she finds out her mother tried to have her killed and sued the doctors to pay raising the kid when the abortion didn't work. This kid is going to turn out as screwed up as her mother.

and you don't think the kid wouldn't find that info out later on as an adult adoptee?

the child has a right to that info legally in most states as it's part of her medical history.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
adoption, stat.

she didn't want the child so i don't want to hear the song and dance that now that the kid is born she loves it. if anyone wants to play that card then it should also be something to seriously think about for everyone considering an abortion.

It's much harder to give up a born baby that you've held in your hands than it is to have an abortion in the first trimester.

It's very easy to understand why she now feels obligated to keep it.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused
If you Google the story, other versions have PP admitting fault.

A couple hundred grand is NOT too much to ask for such a blatant case of incompetence.

a couple hundred grand would be reasonable but do you honestly think she would only ask for a couple hundred grand? Most likely she will request a couple million for "child raising expenses"

Actually, I think the court would look up the averages for child rearing expenses and base their award on that.

You can't just pull a number out of your ass, contrary to popular notion.

You forget this is boston. People can pull whatever they want out of their ass and usually get away with it. I see people win retarded lawsuits all the time here.

Like I said, the award amount MUST be based on something. If compensatory, the award must be based on real costs. If punitive, the award must be based on the income/worth of the defendant. Yes, even in Boston.

you forget who your arguing with.

BKLounger is just pulling sh1t out of his ass as he goes because he doesn't really know what the truth is.

 

[dbk]

Sounds like she wants to keep the child now, but doesn't want to pay for it.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
adoption, stat.

she didn't want the child so i don't want to hear the song and dance that now that the kid is born she loves it. if anyone wants to play that card then it should also be something to seriously think about for everyone considering an abortion.

you can't force the woman to give up her child for adoption.

and what is with this anti lawsuit attitude here. sure there are ridiculous lawsuits, but this one seems pretty legit, whether she wins or loses, i think there is a case to be made here that PPH does have some liability, the amount of that liability to be decided in a court of law.

what's wrong with that?

 

[BKLounger]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused
If you Google the story, other versions have PP admitting fault.

A couple hundred grand is NOT too much to ask for such a blatant case of incompetence.

a couple hundred grand would be reasonable but do you honestly think she would only ask for a couple hundred grand? Most likely she will request a couple million for "child raising expenses"

Actually, I think the court would look up the averages for child rearing expenses and base their award on that.

You can't just pull a number out of your ass, contrary to popular notion.

You forget this is boston. People can pull whatever they want out of their ass and usually get away with it. I see people win retarded lawsuits all the time here.

Like I said, the award amount MUST be based on something. If compensatory, the award must be based on real costs. If punitive, the award must be based on the income/worth of the defendant. Yes, even in Boston.

you forget who your arguing with.

BKLounger is just pulling sh1t out of his ass as he goes because he doesn't really know what the truth is.

oh really so you don't think she could fudge up how much the kid would cost to raise? Taken into consideration housing, food, clothing, transportation, healtcare, childcare (daycare), education and more. Assume she is barely making ends meat at the moment. Then if you take each of those factors and figure out a yearly amount times 18 (age when the child becomes an adult). She could easily get the sum into the millions. As long as she poses them as neccessities can the court really say no?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused
If you Google the story, other versions have PP admitting fault.

A couple hundred grand is NOT too much to ask for such a blatant case of incompetence.

a couple hundred grand would be reasonable but do you honestly think she would only ask for a couple hundred grand? Most likely she will request a couple million for "child raising expenses"

Actually, I think the court would look up the averages for child rearing expenses and base their award on that.

You can't just pull a number out of your ass, contrary to popular notion.

You forget this is boston. People can pull whatever they want out of their ass and usually get away with it. I see people win retarded lawsuits all the time here.

Like I said, the award amount MUST be based on something. If compensatory, the award must be based on real costs. If punitive, the award must be based on the income/worth of the defendant. Yes, even in Boston.

you forget who your arguing with.

BKLounger is just pulling sh1t out of his ass as he goes because he doesn't really know what the truth is.

oh really so you don't think she could fudge up how much the kid would cost to raise? Taken into consideration housing, food, clothing, transportation, healtcare, childcare (daycare), education and more. Assume she is barely making ends meat at the moment. Then if you take each of those factors and figure out a yearly amount times 18 (age when the child becomes an adult). She could easily get the sum into the millions. As long as she poses them as neccessities can the court really say no?

Yeah, someone who would probably be lucky to make $1 million (in today's dollars) in 18 years is going to convince 12 people that it would cost that much to raise her kid. One figure I've heard is $334k from 0 to 18, and even that seems absurdly high since it doesn't include college.

 

[AgentJean]

Originally posted by: wiredspider
How does one botch an abortion , is the child even "normal"?

The kid will never be normal. Her mother tried to have her killed, still doesn't want her but won't do the responsible thing and put her up for adoption. The kid is going to be really really screwed up later in life regardless.

 

[BKLounger]

334k sounds high? hell i'm currently paying 1200 a month for a crappy one bedroom in boston. a two bedroom in boston runs about 1600-1800 a month. 334 seems extremely low at least for boston I have seen in other parts of the country where you would be considered a king with that much money. I see the biggest costs as being to move into a larger apartment, day care for the first parts of it's life, food, and education. Add college into that equation you are looking at tossing 160k on right there.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BKLounger

Originally posted by: Amused
If you Google the story, other versions have PP admitting fault.

A couple hundred grand is NOT too much to ask for such a blatant case of incompetence.

a couple hundred grand would be reasonable but do you honestly think she would only ask for a couple hundred grand? Most likely she will request a couple million for "child raising expenses"

Actually, I think the court would look up the averages for child rearing expenses and base their award on that.

You can't just pull a number out of your ass, contrary to popular notion.

You forget this is boston. People can pull whatever they want out of their ass and usually get away with it. I see people win retarded lawsuits all the time here.

Like I said, the award amount MUST be based on something. If compensatory, the award must be based on real costs. If punitive, the award must be based on the income/worth of the defendant. Yes, even in Boston.

you forget who your arguing with.

BKLounger is just pulling sh1t out of his ass as he goes because he doesn't really know what the truth is.

oh really so you don't think she could fudge up how much the kid would cost to raise? Taken into consideration housing, food, clothing, transportation, healtcare, childcare (daycare), education and more. Assume she is barely making ends meat at the moment. Then if you take each of those factors and figure out a yearly amount times 18 (age when the child becomes an adult). She could easily get the sum into the millions. As long as she poses them as neccessities can the court really say no?

Yeah, someone who would probably be lucky to make $1 million (in today's dollars) in 18 years is going to convince 12 people that it would cost that much to raise her kid. One figure I've heard is $334k from 0 to 18, and even that seems absurdly high since it doesn't include college.

and that's just compensatory damages. why shouldn't there be punitive damages awarded? shouldn't doctors be punished if they didn't do the job they are hired to do?

for some reason BKLounger seems to have a hatred for this woman who he's never met or seen, he wants to assume the absolute worst about her. very strange the bitterness with which he posts about her.

 

[everman]

I don't see why she doesn't just put it up for adoption if she doesn't want to raise it...well actually I do see that it's all about money.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: jhayx7
I'm sure she could leave the kid on a street corner and the Boston bomb squad would blow it up for her.

That was one of the funniest things I've read in a while

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BKLounger
334k sounds high? hell i'm currently paying 1200 a month for a crappy one bedroom in boston. a two bedroom in boston runs about 1600-1800 a month. 334 seems extremely low at least for boston I have seen in other parts of the country where you would be considered a king with that much money. I see the biggest costs as being to move into a larger apartment, day care for the first parts of it's life, food, and education. Add college into that equation you are looking at tossing 160k on right there.

Alright, an extra $400 a month for housing. That's $86,400 over 18 years. I'll give you that. Now come up with the other $250k.

I'm still curious about how you think someone who probably won't make $1 million in 18 years is going to spend have $1+ million in child care expenses.

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
and that's just compensatory damages. why shouldn't there be punitive damages awarded? shouldn't doctors be punished if they didn't do the job they are hired to do?

for some reason BKLounger seems to have a hatred for this woman who he's never met or seen, he wants to assume the absolute worst about her. very strange the bitterness with which he posts about her.

That's why I asked earlier how something like this could even happen - how planned parenthood didn't know the abortion was unsuccessful, and how SHE didn't know the abortion was unsuccessful. I really don't know enough about this case to be saying she deserves millions in punitive damages.

1. Did the hospital follow normal procedures for performing the abortion?
1.a. Is it possible for the abortion to be unsuccessful if they did so, and if so is it normal to perform a pregnancy test afterwards to verify the abortion? Did they do that? I assume some time would have to pass before the pregnancy test was re-administered so she'd have to come back - did the mother do everything she was supposed to do?
2. Should it have been apparent to the mother that she was still pregnant?

 

[amddude]

Originally posted by: AgentJean

Originally posted by: wiredspider
How does one botch an abortion , is the child even "normal"?

The kid will never be normal. Her mother tried to have her killed, still doesn't want her but won't do the responsible thing and put her up for adoption. The kid is going to be really really screwed up later in life regardless.

Unbelievably fscked up. Western civ slides deeper into a black hole

 

[bigdog1218]

How about she takes responsibility for her life decisions instead of trying to blame everyone else. What a POS. She can easily have her medical bills paid for and give up the girl for adoption. But instead she's a horrible person that should be aborted herself and wants to make money off of her mistake.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
How about she takes responsibility for her life decisions instead of trying to blame everyone else. What a POS. She can easily have her medical bills paid for and give up the girl for adoption. But instead she's a horrible person that should be aborted herself and wants to make money off of her mistake.

Um, no. She's a person who should be compensated for the gross incompetence of a clinic.

She chose abortion over adoption so she wouldn't have to go through the intense emotional pain of giving birth, and then having her baby ripped from her hands. Once the baby was born it was too late.

She IS taking responsibility for her actions. The clinic needs to take responsibility for it's actions.

 

[jjones]

Good, I hope she wins. The docs fvcked up and they should shoulder the responsibilty for that. Child-rearing costs is not an exhorbitant amount, all things considered.