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BoSox fans "forgive" Buckner

ThePresence

ThePresence

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Threw out the first pitch in the Sox home opener, etc.

Best piece I've seen written about it is here.

I try to just ignore "Red Sox Nation" and "Yankee Universe" as best I can, but the Bill Buckner thing is sticking in my craw a little bit.

And I know I shouldn't say any of this, really, because the decent fans in "Red Sox Nation" will be offended. But it's not about them.

If you hadn't heard, Buckner returned to Fenway Park and was given a long standing ovation. Everyone is getting misty-eyed hard-ons for this "forgiveness" from Boston fans that Buckner has received.

Get out of here with that nonsense.

These are the same fans (media) that gave Buckner and his family hell for 20 years over a ground ball. I'm not saying that fans shouldn't be passionate, but they made him miserable. We had to put up with story after story from these poor, poor people about how Bill Buckner had caused so much awful pain to their lives and the city, and so on and so forth.

So now everyone's supposed to be thrilled that Bill Buckner has been "forgiven"?

It's long been noted by everyone except the most absolutely ridiculous that blame for the '86 collapse could be put squarely on the shoulders of Calvin Schiraldi and manager John McNamara. Buckner was a physical mess at that point; there was no reason for him to be on the field at that point of Game Six. Whether he insisted or not, McNamara was the manager. He should've known better. And let's not even forget that they grabbed a 3-0 lead in Game Seven before choking that away, too.

Bill Buckner has had to put up with this shit for decades. And, still, there are Red Sox fans (media) that won't grow up about this thing.

Take this, for instance:

It's been 21 years since the ball went through Bill Buckner's legs. That one moment erased everything else he did in his baseball career. There was no forgiving Bill Buckner for years and years by Red Sox fans.

I guess I am willing to forgive Bill Buckner. But, and I bet a lot of you feel this same way, if the Sox had not won two World Series Championships in recent years, and we were still hearing chants of "1918," we wouldn't be so forgiving of Bill Buckner. And he sure as hell (no pun intended) wouldn't be throwing out any opening day pitches. ... It's a new winning century in Red Sox nation, and we are all in a forgiving mood.

Give me a break. Oh, thank you, Boston fans (media), for "forgiving" Bill Buckner! The great Boston fans are willing to forgive Buckner for an error, 22 years after the fact, because they've won the World Series a couple of times this decade.

Oh, how great are they?! Could they be better fans (media)? Is it even possible?

If Buckner really takes this as a lovely little moment in his life -- and he should, ignoring the situation, because he was a damn good player and deserves to be remembered fondly -- then be happy for him.

But don't give these self-centered, arrogant people more credit than they deserve.

Said Buckner, "Is it OK to disrupt people's lives over a baseball game? I'm pretty tough mentally, but the hardest part was my family, my kids. They still have to deal with it. That made me a little bitter. I'm over that."

Boston fans (media) should be thanking Buckner for forgiving them, not the way other way around.

Personally, I don't know that I could've been as big a man as Buckner. I might have gone out there, taken the ovation, thrown the pitch, and asked for the ball back, letting it roll between my legs and giving those boneheads the salute they really deserve on my way off the field.
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So, let me get this straight: a Yankees fan is criticizing Boston fans. Well, call me shocked 😉

No, I'm not a Boston fan.
 
Originally posted by: TheTony
So, let me get this straight: a Yankees fan is criticizing Boston fans. Well, call me shocked 😉

No, I'm not a Boston fan.
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LOL, I didn't write the article.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
i agree. its like the shit they give "bartman" here in chicago.
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Was watching ESPN last week or something and Alau said there's no way in hell he could've caught that ball anyway. Yeah, well, thanks for telling us that 5 years later.
 
Most Sox fans with a clue save their anger for John McNamara, all season long Buckner was removed from the game when the Sox were ahead for defensive purposes, untill that game. He left soft fuzzy feeling interfere with how he managed.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: waggy
i agree. its like the shit they give "bartman" here in chicago.
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Was watching ESPN last week or something and Alau said there's no way in hell he could've caught that ball anyway. Yeah, well, thanks for telling us that 5 years later.
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yeah no shit. he should have come out and said it years ago.

I am a die hard cubs fan. BUT there is no way you can blame the implosion that the cubs did on Bartman. they just choked.


but to many fans, TV media won't let it go
 
They forgave him because they won a couple of series. If they were still trying to win a series then he'd still probably be a scapegoat.
 
Buckner was not responsible for losing that game.

there, I said it.

probably the number one reason I hate the RedSox and their dumbass fans.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: waggy
i agree. its like the shit they give "bartman" here in chicago.
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Was watching ESPN last week or something and Alau said there's no way in hell he could've caught that ball anyway. Yeah, well, thanks for telling us that 5 years later.
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there were at least 6 other people going after that ball!

here's what lost that game:

1.)Dusty leaving Prior in for 8 innings. He was pitching lights out up until that inning, but was losing his control. he panicked after that play with Moises. He should have been gone

2.) Alex Gonzales muffing an easy grounder that would have ended the inning...which led to what, 5 more runs? ouch.

fucking Dusty Baker. he RUINED Prior and Wood. what an ass :|
 
Haha, I was just pointing out a friend "all it took to forgive buckner was not just one, but two world series wins?"

Still, I'm happy for the guy even if some fans/writers are going to be pompous about it and even if other people will be pompous about those people.. being.. pompous.

I need a :beer:
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: TheTony
So, let me get this straight: a Yankees fan is criticizing Boston fans. Well, call me shocked 😉

No, I'm not a Boston fan.
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LOL, I didn't write the article.
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yet, you quote it, and call it "Best piece I've seen written about it". with a smile.
 
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: TheTony
So, let me get this straight: a Yankees fan is criticizing Boston fans. Well, call me shocked 😉

No, I'm not a Boston fan.
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LOL, I didn't write the article.
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yet, you quote it, and call it "Best piece I've seen written about it". with a smile.
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Correct. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
repost aside, that article isn't exactly breaking any new ground, is it?
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No, its just the fact that the holier than thou Boston fans are acting like they're Jesus or something is warranting people pointing this out again.
 
Real sox fans remember how BB was one of the best clutch hitters that entire
season and did so with a bad wheel to boot. He was one of the reasons the
sox even got to the WS that year! The ball took an odd hop and scooted by
him, BFD, that's baseball. I always found it pathetic how everyone tried to blame
losing the WS that year on him...
 
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
repost aside, that article isn't exactly breaking any new ground, is it?
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No, its just the fact that the holier than thou Boston fans are acting like they're Jesus or something is warranting people pointing this out again.
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your comment is blasphemous, but i forgive you, as always.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Was watching ESPN last week or something and Alau said there's no way in hell he could've caught that ball anyway. Yeah, well, thanks for telling us that 5 years later.
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I've figured that was the case since that night. I guess he's admitting he couldn't have even reached it. After they replayed it a billion times that inning, I was pretty sure that even if he could have reached an arm's length over that high railing at the absolute peak of his jump, there was no way he could have pulled it back in quick enough to avoid slamming his forearm/wrist with full force squarely on the railing and dislodging whatever he could have sno-coned. Alou is a dick for keeping mum about it for 5 years and letting Bartman burn in effigy.

And Buckner deserved better, he was a good player, which no one will ever remember. I don't know how you ever get over that, no matter how many hollow ovations you get after the fans are placated with World Series titles. How do you script a worse set of circumstances to make an error like that, short of doing it against the Yankees in a World Series in some alternate universe. I've always felt sorry for the guy.
 
Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Originally posted by: Baked
And Buckner deserved better, he was a good player, which no one will ever remember. I don't know how you ever get over that, no matter how many hollow ovations you get after the fans are placated with World Series titles. How do you script a worse set of circumstances to make an error like that, short of doing it against the Yankees in a World Series in some alternate universe. I've always felt sorry for the guy.
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They did still lose to a NY team...
 
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