Bosch unveils SawStop alternative

[Kaido]

Neat:

http://homefixated.com/bosch-reaxx-table-saw/

Due in fall for $1500. Not cheap, but a worthy investment - saves your fingers!

 

[Micrornd]

Interesting improvement on the SawStop mechanism.

Too bad it still uses the same detection technology.
Once you take that patented process away, it doesn't function.
That sounds like a huge licensing issue.

 

[Stopsignhank]

Cool, I want to get one of those for my maintenance guys at work.

 

[Kaido]

Interesting improvement on the SawStop mechanism.

Too bad it still uses the same detection technology.
Once you take that patented process away, it doesn't function.
That sounds like a huge licensing issue.

Whatever happened to their bandsaw project? That would be HUGE, especially for shop class in high schools...never risk losing a finger!

 

[edro]

Interesting improvement on the SawStop mechanism.

Too bad it still uses the same detection technology.
Once you take that patented process away, it doesn't function.
That sounds like a huge licensing issue.

I'm sure they figured it out before the release.
They are either paying a license fee or they came up with their own similar but different design.

 

[twinrider1]

Watched the video...was expecting Fred Durst to start singing at any moment.

 

[Micrornd]

I'm sure they figured it out before the release.
They are either paying a license fee or they came up with their own similar but different design.

They were very specific that they were not licensing.
I guess we'll see, as legal action is already moving.
Maybe they are counting on EU patents vs. US patents, who knows.
Both are based on touch capacitance, similar to the basics of some touch screens, yet there hasn't been a legal action there.

I never have understood how you could patent something, and then someone makes an improvement to it and re-patents it, when it is still based on the original patent, and if you remove that original patent portion, the new one can't work
(yes, I realize that is vastly simplified from what really happens, but you get the drift)

 

[Blanky]

Neat product. The sawstop replacement cost is overblown. Unless it has a tendency to falsely go, who really cares about $70 if they saved their finger.

Have any of these actually saved anyone's finger, though?

I recall seeing the sawstop inventor being unwilling to test his finger except very, very slowly. I've never seen a video of him or anyone else happily cutting a wood as they march their finger toward the blade at a normal pace.

 

[Kaido]

Neat product. The sawstop replacement cost is overblown. Unless it has a tendency to falsely go, who really cares about $70 if they saved their finger.

Have any of these actually saved anyone's finger, though?

I recall seeing the sawstop inventor being unwilling to test his finger except very, very slowly. I've never seen a video of him or anyone else happily cutting a wood as they march their finger toward the blade at a normal pace.

It still cuts your finger, it just doesn't cut it off...once it senses your skin, it shuts the blade down. So it's kind of silly to expect the inventor to continually cut himself in front of people, that's basically self-abuse

I've never seen one in person, so I'm curious about how many stories there are if they're not widely used...on the flip side, I know a whole bunch of guys who are missing fingers IRL...

 

[Blanky]

Yeah there's no doubt table saws are extremely dangerous and they are responsible for a shocking number of ER visits each year.

http://www.fairwarning.org/2013/05/...ower-tool-industry-resisting-safety-solution/

Table saw accidents are painful, life-changing and expensive. Each year, more than 67,000 U.S. workers and do-it-yourselfers suffer blade contact injuries, according to government estimates, including more than 33,000 injuries treated in emergency rooms and 4,000 amputations.

 

[skyking]

They had a sawstop at the last job I was on. Rule number 1, no damp wood

 

[Micrornd]

They had a sawstop at the last job I was on. Rule number 1, no damp wood

yep, that would get expensive real quick

 

[skyking]

the 5 minute BS is just that, BS. It took way longer to change out the cartridge and get it going again.
If you use a proper guard and a riving knife combo and good techniques, blade contact is completely avoided. Injuries are most common with running commando (no guard) and bad techniques. It takes training to properly use a table saw. It is a powerful tool!

 

[Vdubchaos]

the 5 minute BS is just that, BS. It took way longer to change out the cartridge and get it going again.
If you use a proper guard and a riving knife combo and good techniques, blade contact is completely avoided. Injuries are most common with running commando (no guard) and bad techniques. It takes training to properly use a table saw. It is a powerful tool!

Of course it is.

Just another product for stupid that don't have a clue and it enables people to continue their stupidity.......AT HIGH PRICE of course.

It's like......back up cameras......automatic breaking or blind spot technology. Now people are even MORE lazier and rely on these dumb technologies. I'm sure there will be people that won't hit the brake pedal "because technology"!

How about DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO DO!!!

More power to Bosch, is what I say.