Boris Johnson is maybe jealous of Trump's pole position in political buffoonery?

mikeymikec

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https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c...190b&segment_detail=Q2Story27UK&ds_rl=1253590

The FT doesn't like people quoting any of their articles (huge legal warning in clipboard text when I went to paste), so I'll summarise. When asked about the threat to businesses and jobs that Brexit poses in light of BMW's and Airbus's concerns, BJ's response was "Fuck business".

As the FT article is an opinion piece, naturally I looked for a corroborating source:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44618154

According to the BBC, BJ has refused to deny that he made the comment.

I have to admit that while I normally consider BJ to be a dangerous buffoon, and while nowadays due to months of experience I expect to see in the news another stupid/contemptible/dangerous thing that Trump has said, BJ takes a far more conservative (ie. sparing) approach. I was gobsmacked when I read about this.

Unfortunately I won't be amazed if he manages to keep his job.
 

K1052

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Brexit is shaping up to be an astonishing disaster. I mean even worse than I would have predicted.
 

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Brexit is shaping up to be an astonishing disaster. I mean even worse than I would have predicted.

It's a staggeringly bad idea that is being implemented appallingly and embarrassingly badly.
 

mikeymikec

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I still think he's gonna end up PM some day. :eek: :D:D:D

That's mean man, that's just mean!

Brexit is shaping up to be an astonishing disaster. I mean even worse than I would have predicted.

Meh. Brexit is entirely within my expectations so far, IMO there was no question that it was going to be an utter shitshow. What I haven't even vaguely been able to predict though is the tory party's strategy, but in hindsight I think they've been only looking at the next 5 minutes ever since they pledged a referendum in order to hang on to power in the 2015 election. For example, who on earth would want to become leader of the party after being in the 'Remain' camp except someone who craves power without thinking for two seconds what their job description is going to be.

But then, I've heard crazy shit as well about what she proposed early on, like a 'holiday' from EU membership for a short while, then come back in.

Early on I honestly thought that they were going to look into it and say "you know what, this is an awful idea, but we've analysed it from every angle we can think of and this is the least awful deal we can come up with. If parliament really wants to go ahead with this awful idea then that's their business", because that's what I would have done in their position (assuming that I had no control about how they got in that position in the first place).
 

K1052

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Meh. Brexit is entirely within my expectations so far, IMO there was no question that it was going to be an utter shitshow. What I haven't even vaguely been able to predict though is the tory party's strategy, but in hindsight I think they've been only looking at the next 5 minutes ever since they pledged a referendum in order to hang on to power in the 2015 election. For example, who on earth would want to become leader of the party after being in the 'Remain' camp except someone who craves power without thinking for two seconds what their job description is going to be.

But then, I've heard crazy shit as well about what she proposed early on, like a 'holiday' from EU membership for a short while, then come back in.

Early on I honestly thought that they were going to look into it and say "you know what, this is an awful idea, but we've analysed it from every angle we can think of and this is the least awful deal we can come up with. If parliament really wants to go ahead with this awful idea then that's their business", because that's what I would have done in their position (assuming that I had no control about how they got in that position in the first place).

Given what I've seen of the UK-EU negotiation it doesn't look like any kind of deal can be reached, let alone presented to Parliament.
 

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Given what I've seen of the UK-EU negotiation it doesn't look like any kind of deal can be reached, let alone presented to Parliament.

From what I've seen, it doesn't look like any kind of deal can be reached between members of the government. Doing a deal with the EU is a whole step beyond that.

I'm so tempted to just suggest breaking up the UK into remainland and leaverville. Stick a fork in it, it's done, nobody likes each other, nobody is going to be happy whatever deal is reached. We'll get to keep London, Manchester, Liverpool and Scotland so we'll still have most of the decent music.
 
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K1052

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From what I've seen, it doesn't look like any kind of deal can be reached between members of the government. Doing a deal with the EU is a whole step beyond that.

I'm so tempted to just suggest breaking up the UK into remainland and leaverville. Stick a fork in it, it's done, nobody likes each other, nobody is going to be happy whatever deal is reached. We'll get to keep London, Manchester, Liverpool and Scotland so we'll still have most of the decent music.

Also accurate.