Boozification, Yay or Nay?

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brianmanahan

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Tis true. It was based on me having an awesome neurology group where I live, seeing the same person for 10+ years, and going through all the protocols of detecting where it's at and if it was something they felt that they could safely operate.

So yeah, you're absolutely right.

you get the wada test?
 
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you get the wada test?

I BELIEVE so - forgive me because it's been... ~8+ years since I had my surgery and the testings before it...

But I specifically recall testing in which they attached electrodes or something to my brain - then activate/de-activate them and ask me

"Can you tell me your name?" (memory)

or "What is 2+2?" (simple cognitive function)

Obviously they were de-activating specific parts of my brain to test what that section functions as.... Which sounds like what a WADA test is based on a quick google..


That feeling of helplessly not knowing simple things like 2+2 was... fucking weird.
 

WelshBloke

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Stout is great, but don't drink and of that whiskey barrel-aged crap. Just drink real stout. Drink whisky if you want to drink whiskey. Save the stouts for stouts. The whiskey for whiskey

Most actual stouts are really rather weak--some of the best in the world aren't even 6%
(Holy crap--RSS is still going strong...that thing was a World Gold Medal back when it was my 21st BDay keg in ~2000. :D)

...but there are those that are much stronger, and very good. They are dinner and beer in one glass, really.
Imperial stout is pretty strong and that's definitely a real stout!
 

brianmanahan

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That feeling of helplessly not knowing simple things like 2+2 was... fucking weird.

that's the one where they stick a tube up to one side of your brain through your artery and put it to sleep for a few minutes with some gas

then ask you to answer some questions or remember some stuff

and it is SO WEIRD
 
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that's the one where they stick a tube up to one side of your brain through your artery and put it to sleep for a few minutes with some gas

then ask you to answer some questions or remember some stuff

and it is SO WEIRD

Yup - It's a weird ass feeling of helplessness because you know that you know the answer.... you just can't retrieve it.



Hands down the key testing I had and the key to me being qualified for surgery was spending a week in the hospital with an EEG attached directly to the brain (not the outside skull/skin) and forcing me to stay in the hospital constantly attached until I had seizures.

Took me off medications - made me have alcohol, deprivation of sleep, etc... anything that could trigger seizures with an EEG.

Prior to that, I didn't have much for Grand mals - usually I just kind of...blank out.


Thankfully had my wife (GF at the time) there with me.
 

nakedfrog

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Stout is great, but don't drink and of that whiskey barrel-aged crap. Just drink real stout. Drink whisky if you want to drink whiskey. Save the stouts for stouts. The whiskey for whiskey

Most actual stouts are really rather weak--some of the best in the world aren't even 6%
(Holy crap--RSS is still going strong...that thing was a World Gold Medal back when it was my 21st BDay keg in ~2000. :D)

...but there are those that are much stronger, and very good. They are dinner and beer in one glass, really.
Fuck you, whiskey barrel stouts are delicious!
 

HomerJS

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I don't do much. A nip now and then. Maybe something in juice or coffee. Holodays I get a jug of Tainted Egg Nog. This year it's Evan Williams. And one of Ryan's (I ain't paying the price for Baileys). Maybe one or two others.

Also trying some Jim Beam Apple that ain't all terrible.
Tainted with rum or salmonella?
 

GoodRevrnd

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Goose Island was bought by AB Inbev (AKA Budweiser - mass macro brewer) to which I do say - yeah, I'm generally not in support of them.

However... I'm genuinly fine with mass producers buying out a craft brew SO LONG as they don't fuck with shit.... Which is the problem, 99.9% of the time if a macro brewer buys out a micro brewer the first question to be asked is "How can we make the same product with less costs?" That means replacing the hops/barley/wheat etc. with whatever they can get for cheaper and presuming it will have the same outcome. It doesn't.
The bigger problem is the Inbevs flood shelf space with their own "craft" brews and at best you're left with one or two local options and some Stone and Deschutes (on the West Coast). I don't need a dozen nonsense flavors of Ballast Point and Golden Road displacing old standbys like Northcoast and Coronado, let alone interesting newer breweries.
 

GoodRevrnd

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goddamn it don't tell me that Unibroue is owned by Sapporo (literally Budweiser in Japan) ...I will promptly forget that now.

(actually, I'm somewhat confusing them with Kirin Ichiban...which is, quite literally, Budweiser in a fancy can. It is the same fucking beer, and that is a made up name for a beer that doesn't exist. Prove me wrong, lol--seriously, drink one of those, and read the actual label....MIND BLOWN ...Sapporo isn't nearly as bad)
In Hokkaido (only) they have Sapporo Classic which is a pretty good cheap beer. Plus you can get it out of vending machines on the street which is double bonus points. I don't think mass market Sapporo is all *that* bad, it at least still tastes like beer unlike Bud.
 

nakedfrog

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The bigger problem is the Inbevs flood shelf space with their own "craft" brews and at best you're left with one or two local options and some Stone and Deschutes (on the West Coast). I don't need a dozen nonsense flavors of Ballast Point and Golden Road displacing old standbys like Northcoast and Coronado, let alone interesting newer breweries.
Even here in Nebraska we have Stone & Deschutes on the shelves (and generally a decent amount of locals, and indeed, various Ballast Point flavors).
 

GoodRevrnd

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And another issue is supply contract lockups from growers, especially hops.

Here are some lists of disappointment for your reading pleasure. Had no idea Boston Brewing acquired Dogfish Head this year. :eek:

 
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The bigger problem is the Inbevs flood shelf space with their own "craft" brews and at best you're left with one or two local options and some Stone and Deschutes (on the West Coast). I don't need a dozen nonsense flavors of Ballast Point and Golden Road displacing old standbys like Northcoast and Coronado, let alone interesting newer breweries.
Yeah but to be honest you can kind of tell that some of those breweries were just shit gimmick breweries to begin with.

It's a lot like the brewery Karbach that inBev bought recently in my area... All they had and all they ever made were some boring ass standards.

Standard lager
Standard stout
Standard IPA
Standard Amber

You get the picture.... The goal of those breweries aren't to innovate or anything.... They are specifically made for retards to go to the store and say "I need a 6 pack of beer but it's gotta be craft because I'm super duper exquisite. So I'll buy this 'local' lager instead of Budweiser because it gives me an illusion of being a beer connesseur." Then there are breweries like you mentioned like Avery, Founders, Prairie, North Coast, Martin House, etc. That are all known for specialties... Which requires lots of trial and error, risks of having a crappy batch, etc.

As long as breweries like those are still around that are willing to take risks, try new things, barrel aged stuff... I'm happy.
 

zinfamous

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And another issue is supply contract lockups from growers, especially hops.

Here are some lists of disappointment for your reading pleasure. Had no idea Boston Brewing acquired Dogfish Head this year. :eek:


yep, I think the Dogfish Head and New Belgium buy-outs this year were the biggest news in the beer-sellouts world (Dogfish Head will probably be OK though--New Belgium, I saw that coming years ago. They seemed on a steady decline, pumping out more and more versions of shitty IPAs by the year. Something they never would have tainted themselves with in the past)
 

GoodRevrnd

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I don't know anything about Karbach, but there is something to be said for doing standards well. Everyone is always looking for the next DIPA or barrel aged flavor bomb it's gotten difficult to find a well made pilsner, amber, etc.

I will say the nice thing about these acquisitions is when you're stuck in some shitty bar and at least having an option for Ballast or Goose is a huge improvement from the Bud/Lite/Coors choice of 10 years ago.
 

GoodRevrnd

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yep, I think the Dogfish Head and New Belgium buy-outs this year were the biggest news in the beer-sellouts world (Dogfish Head will probably be OK though--New Belgium, I saw that coming years ago. They seemed on a steady decline, pumping out more and more versions of shitty IPAs by the year. Something they never would have tainted themselves with in the past)
Ya Boston is probably small enough and Dogfish specialized enough they won't mess with it too much. I don't even care about New Belgium, almost everything they make has been genuinely terrible for as long as I can remember. I remember when Fat Tire started showing up everywhere in the early 00's and could not understand why everyone was jerking themselves off over it. Horrible horrible beer.
 

nakedfrog

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Yeah, I've never really enjoyed a New Belgium brew either. I've only tried 4-5 varieties, but that seems like enough to give the rest a skip.
 
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New Belgium had some.... Decent Belgian brews if you could find them. There dubbel and tripel comes to mind...


But yeah far tire sucked.
 
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What cream type liquid can be mixed with spirits that won't curdle? I have some cherry brandy and a couple of other things that might be better in a cream -ish form, but anything I've tried just goes to lumps.
 
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I think we used to put Devonshire (spelling?) in our coffee. It was cheaper than Baileys at the time.
Go buy the stuff Costco sells. Its pretty good and cheap ($15/1.75 liter bottle). I buy it by the case every 2-3 months. Two shots in the morning brew every day for the past ~25 years and my liver is still doing good.

I use Ryan's but not in coffee, or at least not often. I tried the Bailey's grocery store creamers, but they just add a weird taste without the kick.

Ryan's costs me about $18 for the biggun'. Haven't seen Devonshire recently. Used to buy the special holiday bonus box of Carolan's that included a couple of free glasses, but I have enough varied glasses now.
 

Muse

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I think we used to put Devonshire (spelling?) in our coffee. It was cheaper than Baileys at the time.
I got a big bottle of Irish cream at Costco... it isn't Baileys but I haven't ha Baileys for maybe 30 years so I can't tell the difference. Pretty good stuff and I think it's from Ireland. ???

I don't put it in my coffee. Mostly straight and room temperature. At the rate I'm drinking it it should last a year.
 
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Now it's apparently time to... Nuke the Whales?

Well alright then

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WelshBloke

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What cream type liquid can be mixed with spirits that won't curdle? I have some cherry brandy and a couple of other things that might be better in a cream -ish form, but anything I've tried just goes to lumps.

The idea of cherry brandy and a cream liqueur mixed together is giving me a psychosomatic hangover!
That's a lot of sugar and cream in an alcoholic drink!