Booting problem in Windows 98 2nd edition

Juventus

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Hi everyone, need u guys's help. There's a message saying that "memory manger not detected" before i booted in windows. I noticed nothing wrong with my system besides it paused for abt 15 seconds quite often, like whenever I tried to open a new IE window or run an application (words, winzip....) But it did neither freeze nor crash.

Please help me on this. Was it sth wrong with my windows 98 2nd ed or hardware problem. I've 256MB Ram in my system. One of it is PC 100 Micron -8e and the other is Kingston value Ram PC 133. I'm running at FBS 112 MHz. I think both the Rams are working.

Thanks.
 

Slikkster

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Can you post the contents of your "autoexec.bat" file and your "config.sys" file here? both are located in your c:\ folder. Sounds like you're missing a line in your config.sys file...that some program wanted to load the DOS memory manager (rarely needed anymore for anything) and didn't do so correctly.

OR, some program you have running at startup EXPECTS to find the DOS memory manager (emm386.exe) and isn't.

 

Juventus

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yeah, u r good. Now I remember I disable my printer port devices and enable my Creative SB16 Eulation devices. Since it has conflict on the IRQ. But I reverse the process.

here's what in my autoexec.bat
@ECHO OFF
SET BLASTER=A240 17 D3 H7 P330 T6
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

i think it has fewer line when i last open the my autoexec.bat (couldn't remember when is the last time though)

weird my config.sys content was empty! isn't it supposed to have sth at least a line of what?

Pls help thanks.
 

Slikkster

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It's definitely your sblive's dos emulation program. This should fix it.

Add the following to your autoexec.bat so it reads this way:

@ECHO OFF
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0
SET BLASTER=A240 17 D3 H7 P330 T6
SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS
C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM

(you're adding the first line...the SET MIDI=SYNTH blah blah blah)

ALSO, you need to add some lines to your config.sys:

DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:eek:FF /Q
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE I=B000-B7FF RAM D=256 AUTO


heheh...this silly board is formatting the "TESTMEM" adding the smiley face line so I'm going to add a space here to show you what it it should look like...

/TESTMEM: OFF /Q

Just remove the space between "/TESTMEM:" and the word "OFF" as it should all run together. Can't display it that way here because this bulletin board thinks it's a smiley face.
 

Juventus

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There're no such files in my system - himem.sys in my C:\windoes\command and no emm386.exe in my C:\windows

If i run the system file checker and try to restore them from windows 98 2nd ed CD, u think this will help..? But there're so many folders in the CD. Where should I extract the files from in order to restore?

Hi, Slikkster. I saw couple messages during the boot up i edited my autoexec.bat and config.sys
1) emm386.exe is not installed. guess i know why this happened as there's not such files in my computer.
2) XMS manager is not loaded. I've no clue on this one.
3) memory manger not detected.

Appreciate any kinda helps. Thanks Slillster.
 

okydoky

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Thank you Creative... Slikkster has got the right info. Been there. Good going slik!!!
 

Slikkster

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There's an easy way to find files on your Win98 CD. Use the Windows 98 File Checker. Here's how:

You can start the System File Checker by clicking Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Information, and then selecting Tools > System File Checker from the Microsoft System Information toolbar.

On the box that comes up, click the circle next to "Extract One File from Installation Disk". Type in "emm386.exe" (without the quotes). Then, click the browse button. Point it to your CDROM Drive letter to the "\Win98" folder. So, if your Drive letter is D:, it would be browsing to D:\Win98.

Repeat the step for "himem.sys" (without the quotes). Make note of what folder it's restoring these files to. It doesn't really matter as long as you make the correction in your config.sys file. In other words, if the File Checker restores both files to your C:\Windows folder, then change the line in config.sys to read "Device=C:\Windows\himem.sys blah blah blah"
Do the same for Emm386.exe..."Device=C:\Windows\emm386.exe blah blah blah"

So, whatever folder these files are restored to, use it in config.sys as the path to the files for both the emm386.exe line and the himem.sys line.

Understand?

 

Juventus

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Slikkster, really thanks for all the information.

i got it right already. My computer is running like champ. You have been very helpful even u don't know me. Thanks again.