Bone Thugs *sampling?* Phil Collins

[UglyCasanova]

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If only all hip hop/rap whatever could be this good. Damn!

 

[SlitheryDee]

Nice. :thumbsup:

They've always been way better than the majority of rap "artists".

 

[Aharami]

marked for home

 

[LTC8K6]

Where is the barf bucket?

Awful.

I though covering meant singing the song yourself, not whatever that was....

 

[SpiderWiz]

I like it.

 

[PepePeru]

yeah i wouldn't really say they covered the song.

 

[us3rnotfound]

I enjoy Wind Blow more. It's basically them taking the beat from The Chain and the chorus, and mumble rapidly.
Unfortunately I can't find a video of it because they fuckin took it down due to copyright reasons. Let's get real though, who the hell genuinely cares about BTNH?

 

[GasX]

Isn't that just sampling which is how rap got started?

 

[MikeMike]

Rep the CLE

 

[BRObedoza]

damn, i just had to listen to Thuggish Ruggish Bone after you mentioned Bone Thugs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tzSjtuMGOQ

 

[PrinceofWands]

Like most hip-hop, I think it's complete and utter crap. Ok, maybe not AS bad as 99% of it out there, but still completely awful.

On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

 

[Eos]

Request for a thread title change.

 

[polarmystery]

Originally posted by: Aharami
marked for home

 

[HopJokey]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Like most hip-hop, I think it's complete and utter crap. Ok, maybe not AS bad as 99% of it out there, but still completely awful.

On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

Hater in the House!

 

[mxyzptlk]

I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: HopJokey

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Like most hip-hop, I think it's complete and utter crap. Ok, maybe not AS bad as 99% of it out there, but still completely awful.

On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

Hater in the House!

It's impossible to describe how much I despise that crap. Seriously. I love most music, and always have. I also have an extremely open mind, so I try things all the time. No matter how much I've tried over the last 30 years however, I can't stand most rap, hip-hop, r&b, or country, and very little 'pop'. Everything else I love to death.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

I can handle covers that are done either as tribute, or with exceptional artistic merit. I find neither in 99% of hip-hop and rap.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

It pretty much only applies to rap, Guns & Roses remade a Bob Dylan song, people went "OHHH SHIT THIS IS GREAT!!!" But a rapper uses the music from the same Bob Dylan song in one of theirs, it because crap instantly with people bad mouthing it. Rap gets shit on by a lot of people. But it's still the most popular music in the world. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

 

[LTC8K6]

I like some rap, but not whatever that was in the OP.

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

It pretty much only applies to rap, Guns & Roses remade a Bob Dylan song, people went "OHHH SHIT THIS IS GREAT!!!" But a rapper uses the music from the same Bob Dylan song in one of theirs, it because crap instantly with people bad mouthing it. Rap gets shit on by a lot of people. But it's still the most popular music in the world. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

maybe its b/c GNR actually played the instruments & covered the song?

Rappers don't exactly do that, now do they?

Hey I like some rap too, I don't mind sampling, however, just to rap over a verse and use the unchanged chorus...I think that's pretty whack.

COME W. ME ugh
COME WITH ME UGH UGH
DUTTA DA DUTTA DA
COME WITH UGH

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

It mostly applies to rap, if Guns & Roses remakes a Bob Dylan song, people go "OHHH SHIT THIS IS GREAT!!!" But if a rapper uses the music from the same Bob Dylan song in one of theirs, it because crap instantly. Rap gets bad mouthed by a lot of people. But it's still the most popular music in the world. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

Well, in the first place Bob Dylan wrote, produced, or performed an ENORMOUS amount of the music for better than three decades, so he might not be the best example to draw on. However, to use your example, I never much praised the G&R Knockin on Heaven's Door, though neither did it offend me (mostly because metal/hard rock doesn't offend me in the same way most urban music seems to).

Also remember that there's a WORLD of difference between covering a song, and sampling a song.

As to the most popular music, don't make me laugh. Let's add up the total number of rap albums in circulation, then add up the total number of classical albums ever in circulation. Or maybe try it with gospel/hymnals. Crap, find me a rap album that outsold the White album. In fact:

(top selling albums in the world)
Thriller
Back in Black
Eagles Greatest Hits
The Bodyguard Soundtrack (ok, you could call this one r&bish)
Phantom of the Opera
Millennium
Saturday Night Fever
Dark Side of the Moon
Come on Over
Bat out of Hell
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Falling into You
Led Zeppelin IV
Music Box (ok, kind of popish)
Dirty Dancing Soundtrack
Let's Talk About Love

....

I could go on all day. Rap is NOT popular in any meaningful way. Not compared to nearly every other type of music in existence. What music is reprinted the most for education or recital? Classical. What music is performed in most schools? Classical, or folk.

This doesn't mean there isn't some rap/hip-hop/etc that I enjoy. There is some...but it's such a tiny percentage as to basically be moot.

 

[Miramonti]

Collins looks great. God for him for taking care of himself as he's becoming an old man (58).

 

[BW86]

lol - no thanks

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

It pretty much only applies to rap, Guns & Roses remade a Bob Dylan song, people went "OHHH SHIT THIS IS GREAT!!!" But a rapper uses the music from the same Bob Dylan song in one of theirs, it because crap instantly with people bad mouthing it. Rap gets shit on by a lot of people. But it's still the most popular music in the world. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

maybe its b/c GNR actually played the instruments & covered the song?

Rappers don't exactly do that, now do they?

Hey I like some rap too, I don't mind sampling, however, just to rap over a verse and use the unchanged chorus...I think that's pretty whack.

COME W. ME ugh
COME WITH ME UGH UGH
DUTTA DA DUTTA DA
COME WITH UGH

Sampling isn't as easy as playing a song and recording it. And almost never does a rap producer do nothing but sample a song, they chop it up and add/subtract stuff to it. It's not easy or a lot more people would be doing it. It requires just as much talent as playing an instrument. You make it sound like one can press a button and magically have the music to a song for their use. Get on an SP-1200 and use Pro Tools and you'll see what I'm talking about. Sampling is an art when done correctly. And I can't think of the last rap song sampled that had an unchanged chorus, well besides the one the OP posted. And Phil is actually on the song singing, so it's not a sample.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
I prefer 2pac's "cover/sample" of Phil Collins's - in the air tonight.
link

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
On a side note, I'm sick and tired of no-talent ass clowns sampling someone else's work and receiving praise for it. That is all.

I don't quite understand why some people hate covers/samples so much. It's not like this new version somehow degrades the existing work. The existing work still.. um.. exists. It's still there in all it's glory. A newer take on it, targeted to a different audience, does not diminish it in anyway. Still, opinions, like assholes, are evenly distributed throughout humanity and I don't claim to speak for everyone.. I just don't get the hate. It seems so misplaced to me.

It pretty much only applies to rap, Guns & Roses remade a Bob Dylan song, people went "OHHH SHIT THIS IS GREAT!!!" But a rapper uses the music from the same Bob Dylan song in one of theirs, it because crap instantly with people bad mouthing it. Rap gets shit on by a lot of people. But it's still the most popular music in the world. I guess you can't make everyone happy all the time.

maybe its b/c GNR actually played the instruments & covered the song?

Rappers don't exactly do that, now do they?

Hey I like some rap too, I don't mind sampling, however, just to rap over a verse and use the unchanged chorus...I think that's pretty whack.

COME W. ME ugh
COME WITH ME UGH UGH
DUTTA DA DUTTA DA
COME WITH UGH

Sampling isn't as easy as playing a song and recording it. And almost never does a rap producer do nothing but sample a song, they chop it up and add/subtract stuff to it. It's not easy or a lot more people would be doing it. It requires just as much talent as playing an instrument. You make it sound like one can press a button and magically have the music to a song for their use. Get on an SP-1200 and use Pro Tools and you'll see what I'm talking about. Sampling is an art when done correctly. And I can't think of the last rap song sampled that had an unchanged chorus, well besides the one the OP posted. And Phil is actually on the song singing, so it's not a sample.

Bullshit.

Talk it up all you want, it's entirely opinion based, and mine is that it sucks a donkey's swollen ass. *shrug*