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Skillz

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We need as much CPUs as possible crunching yoyo@home on ECM or if the host has a ton of RAM ECM P2 tasks if we want to catch P3D who is around 10M points ahead of us.
 

StefanR5R

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A lot of issues with a bad cable internet connection could be due to bad coaxial cables at the resident or bad splitters. Splitters is usually the culprit in this situation, especially splitters that are not capped off. I assume you live in a multi family unit (IE: Apartment) and the cables are probably out of your control on how good they are, but the splitters might be in the cable box outside of your apartment and in bad shape. Unless the enclosure is locked then it wouldn't be too hard to take a look inside and ensure its in good shape and the ports not used are capped off properly. If it looks rough I'd consider replacing it, although a bad splitter could look brand new and still be faulty.
I think the issue affected the whole neighborhood. I just wanted to look up what other streets were linked to the ticket, but they have taken this ticket down in the meantime. So I hope it was fixed and I'll be good for the rest of the Pentathlon. :-)
Yes, I live in a multi family unit… built about 100 years ago, like the whole district. Maybe that's when the TV cabling was installed too. ;-) — The box in the basement which looks like it contains the splitters is locked up.
 

Orange Kid

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StefanR5R

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Edit – Sorry for my lack of enthusiasm this year. :-) :-|
I am of the kind of people who would describe Obstacle Run differently from how post #1 and SETI.Germany themselves put it: Of the 14 days of its duration, there are 11 days with 50% credit penalty, and 3 days with 38%, 25%, or no credit penalty. (Last year it was 67% penalty on 11 days and 33%, 17%, or no penalty on 3 days.) I can't help myself and either only report results on days with lower/ without penalty or stay out of Obstacle Run. I did the former last year (while using >14 days to actually compute for Obstacle Run) but am still undecided about it this year.
Turns out I took a third option: Take part in Obstacle Run as if it was still the Marathon.

Hindsight is 20/20, but:

Planet 3D Now! and TeAm AnandTech had a few really, how should I put it, *big* users showing up. If just some of them had gone into the 3rd obstacle day (in my terms: the 0% penalty day) with multi-day deep bunkers, then one out of these three things would have happened:
  • The validator would not have been able to process all these results, by far. It would have validated some of the results from the deep bunkers, and all other participants would have been left out, with pendings until the next day or two or three next days.
  • Or another server limit might have been hit before that, notably a ceiling of project-wide tasks in progress, and the server would have stopped to generate more work during the period before the obstacle. Remember ODLK in Formula BOINC?
  • Or the server would have become more or less unreachable at some point before or during the obstacle. This is the least likely outcome, because the admin is known to go through lengths to keep the server responsive. He might have resorted to drastic measures to ensure this.

To be frank, limitations like these have made Pentathlon much less attractive to me personally, compared to the early years of my participating in it.

[Yesterday I posted some parts of this as feedback in SG's forum.]
 
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Ken g6

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Turns out I took a third option: Take part in Obstacle Run as if it was still the Marathon.
That was almost my plan. I made a simple modification that I hoped would help: I disabled networking most of the day and only enabled it at the beginning of each UTC day. That way I was dumping a bunker every day, and if a bonus day was declared I could just run open for that day. It somewhat worked...

Planet 3D Now! and TeAm AnandTech had a few really, how should I put it, *big* users showing up. If just some of them had gone into the 3rd obstacle day (in my terms: the 0% penalty day) with multi-day deep bunkers, then one out of these three things would have happened:
  • The validator would not have been able to process all these results, by far. It would have validated some of the results from the deep bunkers, and all other participants would have been left out, with pendings until the next day or two or three next days.
  • Or another server limit might have been hit before that, notably a ceiling of project-wide tasks in progress, and the server would have stopped to generate more work during the period before the obstacle. Remember ODLK in Formula BOINC?
  • Or the server would have become more or less unreachable at some point before or during the obstacle. This is the least likely outcome, because the admin is known to go through lengths to keep the server responsive. He might have resorted to drastic measures to ensure this.
What actually happened with a lot of people's bunkers, including some of mine, was option #4: The server, when overloaded, sets up a condition in clients that report large numbers of WUs all at once such that nothing can be reported, until the client either resets the project or has some files delicately edited. o_O I think this is unique to YoYo. I hope the YoYo project runs out of money and shuts down. :mad:

To be frank, limitations like these have made Pentathlon much less attractive to me personally, compared to the early years of my participating in it.
The funny thing is, this year, YoYo was the only project I had server trouble with. The Pentathlon is one of the few competitions that coordinates with project managers, and I think it paid off this year.
 

emoga

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Thanks to all team members for participating this year. This was the most stable Pentathlon that I can recall, with the first one I participated in being in 2014.

Despite the occasional stress and time-consuming nature of it, I consistently find myself having a great time. 🍻
 

StefanR5R

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SETI.Germany also maintain an all-time ranking (https://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/archive/). Just now it still reflects last year's standings: We had entered 5th place in the Overall stats and 3rd place in the Discipline stats. I haven't done the math where we will be with this year's results added in…

Also, the next Pentathlon project is about to be announced in a little over 346 days from now! :-O
 

Skillz

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SETI.Germany also maintain an all-time ranking (https://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/archive/). Just now it still reflects last year's standings: We had entered 5th place in the Overall stats and 3rd place in the Discipline stats. I haven't done the math where we will be with this year's results added in…

Also, the next Pentathlon project is about to be announced in a little over 346 days from now! :-O

For the overall stats we should jump up to 3rd place behind SUSA and P3D. 2 Gold + 2 silver should put is ahead of 2 Gold + 1 Silver + 4 Bronze SETI.Germany and the 2 Gold + 2 Bronze TSBT.

For the discipline stats we will remain in third place with 12 Gold, 4 silver and 1 bronze medals.

But it usually takes SG a while to update those stats. I'm sure they take a much needed break after the main event each year then update the stats some months later when they get the free time.