Boehner rejects Obama on date of Jobs speach

[nageov3t]

sadly i agree

IF as some papers say Boahner claimed its because security sweeps don't allow for time then the WH was idiotic for sending it on that day without planning. IF Boahner is just fucking around and trying to to be an ass he is a idiot.

either way this is a fucking petty thing by all involved.

my theory is that Ron Paul was going to force the House to actually vote on allowing Obama to address them (in protest of Obama preempting the debate), so Boehner invented the "security concerns" to save them both from the embarrassment of the House actually voting no.

 

[dmcowen674]

Boehner rejects Obama on date of Jobs speach

Boehner thumbs his nose at Obama! This kind of blatant disrespect for the office of President is just disgusting. I can't imagine this happening in any other Administration.

Sorry there mister Prez, we really don't have time for your speach can you make it umm some other time, like maybe never?

XOXO

Love House of Republicans

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44343546/ns/politics-white_house/

Obama should just resign and turn over the Presidency to Boehner.

 

[senseamp]

GOP has no time for the economy.

 

[boomerang]

So Obama now believes the republicans will care or listen or act on his jobs program,
when they now dictate how and when he will talk?
If I didn’t know better, and I do not... I'd swear Obama is trying as hard as possible to lose this election. Maybe he wants to cash out, write books and travel? Totally disgusting leadership for any acting president. People hated GW, but more than that, people hate a woosie. I’m surprised Boehner doesn’t insist Obama wear a pretty little dress and do a little Shirley Temple dance before the full congress.
Woops… ***Breaking news*** again… Obama to wear a pretty little dress and sing “Animal Crackers in My Soup” Thursday evening @ 8pm.

We told you all about him repeatedly prior to his election. You wouldn't listen. It is encouraging to see that it's starting to sink in. But regardless, I know what lever you'll be pulling in November of 2012.

 

[Ausm]

The Republicans will get to the jobs issue that they pledged to in their Pledge to America after the debates.

LOL Yeah they ran on Jobs being their priority yet they have not had a single jobs bill come out the tan man's house.

 

[Ausm]

Obama has been on vacationing on Martha's Vineyard for two weeks!!

If this was THAT important he should have skipped his vacation and called congress back early and went right to work on his plan.

Instead he spent his days golfing and hanging out in his $50,000 a week rented estate...

Your thinking is flawed the GOP does not recognize or gives him the respect his Title deserves so they would ignore any pleas to come back to work.

Also strikes me funny that you would realistically think that a "do nothing" Congress would accomplish anything worth a fuck anyway.

 

[pcgeek11]

Obama should just resign and turn over the Presidency to Boehner.

I agree 100%.

 

[rudder]

Maybe Obama wanted to upstage the existing event with his own.

Please do not interrupt the circle jerk.

 

[rudder]

LOL Yeah they ran on Jobs being their priority yet they have not had a single jobs bill come out the tan man's house.

ok.. I will bite. Exactly why type of bill could come out of congress that would create jobs?

Tax breaks to hire people? Other government incentives? Government building projects like Seattle green jobs project where $20 million was spent to create 14 jobs? Businesses hire people when they have a need for employees. Businesses that grow and expand then need new employees. They do not hire people just for the tax breaks. Businesses are in existence to make money not to provide people with employment. Half of all private sector jobs come from small businesses. You cry that nothing has come from the house.. then you cry when the house attempts to undo the damage done by obama. Make up your mind.

 

[HomerJS]

ok.. I will bite. Exactly why type of bill could come out of congress that would create jobs?

Tax breaks to hire people? Other government incentives? Government building projects like Seattle green jobs project where $20 million was spent to create 14 jobs? Businesses hire people when they have a need for employees. Businesses that grow and expand then need new employees. They do not hire people just for the tax breaks. Businesses are in existence to make money not to provide people with employment. Half of all private sector jobs come from small businesses. You cry that nothing has come from the house.. then you cry when the house attempts to undo the damage done by obama. Make up your mind.

To piggyback on your response, companies can only expand when people buy their shit. In otherwords, spending. I know it's a dirty word but someone has to do it first for the cycle to get better.

 

[Vic Vega]

Maybe Obama wanted to upstage the existing event with his own.

This is exactly what he was going for. Politics as usual.

 

[Ausm]

This is exactly what he was going for. Politics as usual.

Yeah you would never see a Republican lower themselves to that standard D:

 

[Ausm]

ok.. I will bite. Exactly why type of bill could come out of congress that would create jobs?

Tax breaks to hire people? Other government incentives? Government building projects like Seattle green jobs project where $20 million was spent to create 14 jobs? Businesses hire people when they have a need for employees. Businesses that grow and expand then need new employees. They do not hire people just for the tax breaks. Businesses are in existence to make money not to provide people with employment. Half of all private sector jobs come from small businesses. You cry that nothing has come from the house.. then you cry when the house attempts to undo the damage done by obama. Make up your mind.

We hire them in Congress to make legislation and the Republican RAN on JOBS JOBS JOBS...yet the hypocritical mofos have yet to produce a single jobs bill...it's not my fucking job to make the laws.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Maybe Obama wanted to upstage the existing event with his own.

This is exactly what he was going for. Politics as usual.

Yeah you would never see a Republican lower themselves to that standard D:

The President is expect to be above the petty politics of the party's in Congress. The intention is to lead the country (which includes Congress), not be the tail of the dog.

Leadership is one reason why the position used to be considered the highest position in the land. Aspired to be obtained by school children everywhere.

Obama is not leading, the country or even his party. He is becoming an reactionary, seems almost resigned that he will be a one termer.

 

[HomerJS]

I know this entire speech date thing is inconsequential in light of the problems the country is having but it really pisses me off. I'm talking about the White House and Obama.

My guess is that was the best day following Labor Day to give the speech. You don't want to do it the day after, NFL opening day or Friday. It just happened to be the same day as the debate. The WH knew there would have been upstaging but that would have been a good by-product for them. Having that live contrast betweeen Democrats and Republicans, along with the debate participants having to respond live to Obama's speech, forcing them to think on their feet.

Boehner and the Republicans have been minority bullies and this would have been a good opportunity to punch that bully in the nose. Absent that the bullying will continue.

What Obama should have done was say I'm going to show up on the steps of the Capital and give the speech. I'm inviting everyone to show up. All the Dems would be there and no Republicans. That visual would have been stunning. Instead he just caved.

The Republicans should respect the President and at least fear him. I suspect now neither is true.

 

[Thump553]

Totally agree with HomerJS at #65 above.

Unfortunately Obama totally caved in (again) to GOP bullying tactics.

He is letting down his supporters, damaging any slim chance he has of getting any part of his agenda done and sealing the deal for a GOP President in the 2012 elections-if they are able to find a noncrazy nominee.

The country is facing the choice between a GOP/subsidize the wealthy agenda or a water-downed GOP agenda. Some choice.

 

[Ausm]

The President is expect to be above the petty politics of the party's in Congress. The intention is to lead the country (which includes Congress), not be the tail of the dog.

Leadership is one reason why the position used to be considered the highest position in the land. Aspired to be obtained by school children everywhere.

Obama is not leading, the country or even his party. He is becoming an reactionary, seems almost resigned that he will be a one termer.

Never claimed he was leading nor did I claim I liked his style.

 

[sunzt]

Totally agree with HomerJS at #65 above.

Unfortunately Obama totally caved in (again) to GOP bullying tactics.

He is letting down his supporters, damaging any slim chance he has of getting any part of his agenda done and sealing the deal for a GOP President in the 2012 elections-if they are able to find a noncrazy nominee.

The country is facing the choice between a GOP/subsidize the wealthy agenda or a water-downed GOP agenda. Some choice.

Christ, it's just a date dude.

 

[ProfJohn]

We hire them in Congress to make legislation and the Republican RAN on JOBS JOBS JOBS...yet the hypocritical mofos have yet to produce a single jobs bill...it's not my fucking job to make the laws.

What kind of bill do you want? Specifically?

What should they do to create jobs?

And do you think the Senate would go along with a GOP plan that might include tax cuts or regulatory reform or the elimination of Obamacare?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

The white house and Boehners office can't even agree on if they talked to each other

A White House official responded, saying: "Boehner’s office was consulted about the 9/7 date before the letter was released. No objection/concern was raised," so the letter went out.

But Boehner's office said that the White House account was not accurate.


It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

 

[ProfJohn]

The Republicans should respect the President and at least fear him. I suspect now neither is true.

Why should one branch of government fear the other?

And giving a speech on the steps would be foolish. It would look like a prep rally or a campaign event which is not the message they are trying to send.

He wants to do it in a joint session because it makes him look presidential. "Here is the president acting like the president"

 

[FerrelGeek]

After the debt ceiling debacle and his statements that everyone should stay on the summer recess so they don't just come back early and pissed off it doesn't look good to do this on the first evening back and during the GOP debate (although it is one of MANY debates coming up).

It will be easy to paint him as an uncooperative shit disturber which is exactly the opposite of what every politician should be wanting at this point.

The rep debate has been scheduled for quite some time. This was nothing but a cheap stunt by Obama, who can't resist throwing his ego around. I know that those on this board that felat Obama in their dreams will never see it this way, but it is what it is.. Obama doesn't need to make this speech before a joint session of Congress; this was just an attempt to diss reps in their own house. BTW, it's the Speaker's place to invite Obama, not Obama's place to demand an audience. There's still this silly thing in the Constitution about separation of powers, you know.

And as for the speech? Unless Obama has concrete ideas on how to spur job growth in the private sector, all we'll have is yet another big spending bill. Sorry, your messiah loses again.

/waits for the Obamaphiles to howl, yowl, whine, and blame Bush.

 

[ProfJohn]

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

I am not sure it is even funny.

Just sad.

It's the Keystone cops...
Or maybe Benny Hill.

 

[HomerJS]

Christ, it's just a date dude.

UR missing the point. It's not the date, it's his entire MO of dealing with Republicans.

Anyone remotely politically savy knew there would be a scuffle in picking that date and backing down makes him even weaker in dealing with them.

Obama need to reach down in his gut and pull this out. Put Boehner in the role of guy in green shirt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlISIg9PkFI

 

[Ausm]

What kind of bill do you want? Specifically?

What should they do to create jobs?

And do you think the Senate would go along with a GOP plan that might include tax cuts or regulatory reform or the elimination of Obamacare?

Please read above post for your answer.

Oh the last question you posed is so fucking lame I give it 0/10.