Body Shop Questions

thecritic

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All,

I?m posting for a friend who has several questions regarding paint/body work.

1) Is sanding the entire vehicle necessary for paint preparation?

2) Is ?spot? sanding and using a sealer sufficient for paint preparation?

3) How many coats of paint are needed for a good quality job?

4) Which is better, ?integrated? clear coat or an actual layer of the ?clear coat?? Or, would it be advisable to have both?

5) Since the paint process will be part of a collision repair, would it be advisable to blend and paint the replaced sections, or repaint the entire vehicle? Both of the shops seem to prefer repainting the entire car as it is less expensive than attempting to computer match the color. (Its an 03 Corolla)

Here?s the situation:

One shop, Earl Scheib, offers a paint service for $359.95. They machine sand and hand ?block? sand the entire vehicle and mask off the trim, windows, rubber parts, etc. (note: mask, not remove) Using an acrylic/enamel type paint, they spray on a ?base? coat, which also has a primer/sealer capability. They then spray two additional coats of paint with an integrated clear coat. They also install UV protection (no charge). 6-yr warranty on the entire job.

Another shop, Maaco, offers their in-house, top of the line paint service. They sand only the scratches and nicks, and apply a ?universal? sealer. They then spray with a base coat (unsure how many coats), then a separate clear coat. 5-yr warranty on the entire job, which should cost less than $1000 total.

Of course, all of these costs are on top of the costs for replacing body parts due to the collision.

Please, no ?cheapo? comments. If the job is not done correctly, it?ll be done until it is. Budget is limited (out-of-pocket due to being hit by uninsured motorist), so the person is resorting to the least expensive option.

Thanks.
 

ArJuN

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You are better off taking it to a custom painter. They will use better quality paints. Maaco is an overpriced piece of ******. In this case I would go with the cheaper one...can't you ask him to spray an actual clear?
 

acemcmac

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I can't believe you are actually accomadating that piece of sh!t. I'd take it to my favorite body shop, hand the SOB an invoice and tell them they'll be in court within a week if they don't pay up. I'd have them cash advance on a CC if it came to that. I have NO tolerance for uninsured motorists. I hate paying insurance too. Yeah, I have to go without sometimes because there might not be enough money after paying the bills, but insurance isn't something you can just "go without" when times get tough. FVCK THEM.
 

thecritic

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Originally posted by: ArJuN
You are better off taking it to a custom painter. They will use better quality paints. Maaco is an overpriced piece of ******. In this case I would go with the cheaper one...can't you ask him to spray an actual clear?

Yeah, they can do an actual clear, $100 more.

Well, it isn't my car, and the person who owns the car is on a tight budget, so what can I say ???

Its either fix it or you don't, and not fixing it isn't an option.
 

Sluggo

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To be honest, any body shop worth a crap can match the paint on an 03 Corolla without a problem.

The only problems I could foresee would be if its a funky color (silver is notoriously difficult to match) but even if the paint is slightly off, I really dont think the value of the car would change significantly. Generally slightly mismatched colors only become obvious in certain lighting conditions, and still most people are not observant enough to notice.

Assuming the match is crucial, it would still be less expensive to paint an entire side of the car instead of the whole thing. The human eye would never be able to "carry" the color from one side to the other to notice a mismatch, it would generally only be noticed on adjacent panels.

Going through the process of repainting an entire car to avoid having to color match a panel or two sounds a lot more like padding the bill than trying to accomodate the customers needs.
 

thecritic

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They said they can match the paint if partial repainting is wanted, but it costs $200 per panel. At that price, wouldn't it make more sense to repaint the entire car...??? fwiw, the car is an off green...
 

Sluggo

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Originally posted by: wanmichael
They said they can match the paint if partial repainting is wanted, but it costs $200 per panel. At that price, wouldn't it make more sense to repaint the entire car...??? fwiw, the car is an off green...

Thats BS, it should be part of the estimate. You dont do body work on a car without accounting for painting in the estimate.



Oh we'll fix your car up good.
Ohhhhhhh you actually wanted all the panels the same color????
That'll be $200 more per panel.
 

thecritic

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No, error on my part in terms of explanation.

Here's what I learned from their website:

Repaint entire car- $360 (details in original post), you pick the color.

Repaint a single panel (one panel only)- $200