Bob Woodward on NPR's Fresh Air

adlep

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Mr. Woodward still supports all of the claims he made. It looks like all of the statements highlighted in his book are very well documented/scripted...
And before you will charge the book of being "dirty politics" remember; this is this same author who stated the Watergate investigation. His jurnalistic credibility is well- known...
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TekChik

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Originally posted by: adlep
Mr. Woodward still supports all of the claims he made. It looks like all of the statements highlighted in his book are very well documented/scripted...
And before you will charge the book of being "dirty politics" remember; this is this same author who stated the Watergate investigation. His jurnalistic credibility is well- known...
Listen online

So why is his book topping the list of books that the Bush Re-election Campaign wants people to read??

Link

Overall, the book is NOT damaging to President Bush. It's just the parts that the media has pulled out to make big deals over...

 

ThePresence

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I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.
 

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Originally posted by: TekChik
Originally posted by: adlep
Mr. Woodward still supports all of the claims he made. It looks like all of the statements highlighted in his book are very well documented/scripted...
And before you will charge the book of being "dirty politics" remember; this is this same author who stated the Watergate investigation. His jurnalistic credibility is well- known...
Listen online

So why is his book topping the list of books that the Bush Re-election Campaign wants people to read??

Link

Overall, the book is NOT damaging to President Bush. It's just the parts that the media has pulled out to make big deals over...


There are some very big deals. I suggest you read the book. I am right now.

As far as the list, when someone can't argue with a thing, then they sometimes embrace it as a diversion.

On the other hand, Bush has such a distorted view of reality he may think the book flattering.

*Spoiler* At the end of the book, it was mentioned to Bush that Blair has doubts every time a soldier was killed. How could one not? Bush replied that he never doubts. Someone who is responsible for the lives of others and never ever questions himself is frightening. I want a President who questions himself and his assumptions. As I said elsewhere, it is not the presence of faith, but the lack of any doubt that makes for trouble.
 

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.


In your opinion is NPR more "liberally" slanted than Fox News is slanted right.

 

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.

ah, thats funny, since after the clarke book came out, bush and co had way more airtime on npr then clarke.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.

You're just slanted by Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX


BTW, NPR receives <2% of its budget from federally-funded grants. The rest is from private donations.
 

bozack

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You're just slanted by Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX

BTW, NPR receives <2% of its budget from federally-funded grants. The rest is from private donations.

Conjur,

the two you mention first are individuals, and the latter is a private company....the 2% NPR recieves is more than all three of the former recieve from federally funded grants (Which totals a whopping 0.0000)....lets try comparing apples to apples instead of just whatever you feel is the standard conservative bash.
 

Infohawk

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My favorite "Fresh Air" is still the one where O'Reilly came on and showed himself as the infantile moron he truly is.

NPR is really not slanted. I challenge anyone to find an example of them being slanted. They bring on Woodward now, but don't forget a couple weeks ago they had Bush's old advisor to talk about her book. She has had Franken on, but she invited O'Reilly too. It's called "Shields and Brooks", not "Shields and Shields." (Might I say Brooks is one of the more respectable conservatives out there [even though I disagree with him vehemently on most issues]). NPR presents facts and asks both sides to analyze. Now if more liberals listen than conservatices, this may be because liberals as a group are more interested in subdued, reasonable discussion-- I'm not sure--- but it is not because NPR is slanted.

If you want to see slanted, look at Air America or Rush. Here, the liberal and conservative voices constitute 90% of their respective shows. There is no balance. That's not the case with NPR.
 

adlep

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.

Troll
It has nothing to do with my topic, please go away...
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: adlep
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.

Troll
It has nothing to do with my topic, please go away...
Gladly.
 

adlep

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: adlep
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I never understood why my tax dollars help pay for NPR, which is so liberally slanted, it makes Moonbeam look like a neocon.

Troll
It has nothing to do with my topic, please go away...
Gladly.

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Fausto

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Originally posted by: bozack
You're just slanted by Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX



BTW, NPR receives <2% of its budget from federally-funded grants. The rest is from private donations.



Conjur,



the two you mention first are individuals, and the latter is a private company....the 2% NPR recieves is more than all three of the former recieve from federally funded grants (Which totals a whopping 0.0000)....lets try comparing apples to apples instead of just whatever you feel is the standard conservative bash.
Here:

How is npr Supported?

npr (National Public Radio) is a private, self-supporting nonprofit media company with hundreds of independent radio stations as members. npr receives no direct federal funding for general support. npr supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from stations, contributions from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage - between 1-2 percent of npr's annual budget - comes from competitive grants sought by npr from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, National Science Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts. At present, npr's annual operating budget is approximately $100 million a year (2002 npr Annual Report).

2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Fausto
2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:
With apologies to adlep who didn't seem to grasp why I brought up my beef with NPR in his thread about an NPR interview, let me respond. It's not about how much it costs me, you or the average citizen, it's the fact that federal dollars help support it. I don't want to help support them, their agenda or the political slant that they broadcast, so pull my 1.5 cents along with everyone elses and let them find the 2% of their budget elsewhere.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fausto
2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:
With apologies to adlep who didn't seem to grasp why I brought up my beef with NPR in his thread about an NPR interview, let me respond. It's not about how much it costs me, you or the average citizen, it's the fact that federal dollars help support it. I don't want to help support them, their agenda or the political slant that they broadcast, so pull my 1.5 cents along with everyone elses and let them find the 2% of their budget elsewhere.
1. Not everyone dislikes NPR.

2. There are far greater misuses of your tax dollars you should be worried about.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fausto
2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:
With apologies to adlep who didn't seem to grasp why I brought up my beef with NPR in his thread about an NPR interview, let me respond. It's not about how much it costs me, you or the average citizen, it's the fact that federal dollars help support it. I don't want to help support them, their agenda or the political slant that they broadcast, so pull my 1.5 cents along with everyone elses and let them find the 2% of their budget elsewhere.

So, just how slanted are shows like Car Talk, Whad'ya Know?, World Cafe, The Thistle &amp; Shamrock, A Prairie Home Companion, etc.? I guess you forget that NPR is more than news.

Also, they do have conservative commentators on a fair amount. Yesterday's Tavis Smiley Show had on J.C. Watts. You don't get much more conservative.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fausto
2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:
With apologies to adlep who didn't seem to grasp why I brought up my beef with NPR in his thread about an NPR interview, let me respond. It's not about how much it costs me, you or the average citizen, it's the fact that federal dollars help support it. I don't want to help support them, their agenda or the political slant that they broadcast, so pull my 1.5 cents along with everyone elses and let them find the 2% of their budget elsewhere.

So, just how slanted are shows like Car Talk, Whad'ya Know?, World Cafe, The Thistle &amp; Shamrock, A Prairie Home Companion, etc.? I guess you forget that NPR is more than news.

Also, they do have conservative commentators on a fair amount. Yesterday's Tavis Smiley Show had on J.C. Watts. You don't get much more conservative.
We get hours and hours of classical music too. That'll make you want to go protest something. :p

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Technically, FOX makes BILLIONS off the free broadcast spectrum it utilizes to misinform the public. NPR (public broadcasting) uses a much smaller piece of the spectrum and provides useful information without inundating the public with consumer BS or banality . . . OK EastEnders is pretty banal but otherwise public broadcasting is good . . . and cheap for the American consumer.

In sum, both are government-subsidized. The problem is that FOX is a horrible return on investment.
 

Witling

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InfoHawk, welcome to the board. Sorry that you don't have PM (private message) turned on because this is more appropriate for a PM. You said, "NPR is really not slanted. I challenge anyone to find an example of them being slanted."

The O'Reilly interview was one of my favorites too, but the NPR Ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, found it slanted. He characterized the interview as "pointed" and "coming accross as pro-Franken." Ombudsman's Letter.

I happen to like NPR and Terry Gross, but, you asked for an example.

 

smashp

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: conjur
You're just slanted by Limbaugh, Hannity, and FOX
For the record, I think Hannity is a frigging moron.



Good, Requardless of your political Standings, this should be a given


Anyone who doesnt think sean is a moron, ate too much Glue as a child.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: smashp
Good, Requardless of your political Standings, this should be a given
Anyone who doesnt think sean is a moron, ate too much Glue as a child.
Now Rush OTOH... :p
 

adlep

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Fausto
2% of that is 2,000,000. There were roughly 129,948,000 tax returns filed in 2001. Assuming everyone paid the same amount in taxes, each household coughed up a whopping 1.5 cents for NPR. Now shut the f*ck up about "my tax dollars" and NPR already. :roll:
With apologies to adlep who didn't seem to grasp why I brought up my beef with NPR in his thread about an NPR interview, let me respond. It's not about how much it costs me, you or the average citizen, it's the fact that federal dollars help support it. I don't want to help support them, their agenda or the political slant that they broadcast, so pull my 1.5 cents along with everyone elses and let them find the 2% of their budget elsewhere.

Quite frankly I dont care. This is not a thread about NPR.
If you want to discuss NPR finances start your own thread.
Anyway, it is now ruined because of you. Thanks :|
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: Witling
InfoHawk, welcome to the board. Sorry that you don't have PM (private message) turned on because this is more appropriate for a PM. You said, "NPR is really not slanted. I challenge anyone to find an example of them being slanted."



The O'Reilly interview was one of my favorites too, but the NPR Ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, found it slanted. He characterized the interview as "pointed" and "coming accross as pro-Franken." Ombudsman's Letter.



I happen to like NPR and Terry Gross, but, you asked for an example.

I wouldn't consider it an example myself. Terry is notorius for interviewing media people in the exact same manner they conduct themselves. She used the same ambush tactics on O'Reilly that he built a career on. I find his reaction and "outrage" a prime example of his true character. They guy can dish it but can't take it.