BMW's new sport coupe

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
72,636
47
91
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/Toyota_Celica/newnews/newsarticle.php3?id=3785


<< Meet the car which insiders say will be the finest driving machine ever built by BMW. Caught on camera for the first time ever by Auto Express's spy photographers, the sleek new model is to replace the muscular M Coup&eacute;, and will combine styling influences from the new Z3 and X Coup&eacute; concept.
As our exclusive picture shows, although the front lights are distinctively individual when compared to those of the current BMW range, the rear lamps are expected to be largely identical to those that were first shown on the X Coup&eacute;. The newcomer will not only be aiming to knock machines such as the Porsche 911 from the top spot in its class, but is also designed to counter a growing number of performance cars set for launch in Japan. As well as the forthcoming Nissan GT-R, the Mazda RX-8 and next-generation Honda NSX are in the pipeline, too.

BMW is confident it has the answer to this threat in the radical coup&eacute; pictured here. The lightweight two-plus-two will be powered by an advanced 2.2-litre 240bhp engine capable of propelling the car from 0-60mph in less than 5.5 seconds. Top speed is likely to be electronically limited to 155mph, while the gearbox will be an advanced edition of the already impressive SMG semi-automatic currently offered on the new M3. Insiders say pricing will be incredibly competitive for a coup&eacute; of this calibre, starting at around £30,000. With only one engine choice initially on offer, flagship editions will cost no more than £35,000.
>>

 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
28,510
0
0
woooww, actually the first coupe car I see that I like :D

I would never buy it though.... and I would probably never afford it anyways so it doesnt matter if I would buy it ir not
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
29,767
33
81
Opinion NFS4?

I say interesting. What does the boot look like? Has it been bangled? I think I could have designed better, though...
 

Lucky

Lifer
Nov 26, 2000
13,126
1
0
Nice looking! :)

But what the hell is with this:

Caught on camera for the first time ever by Auto Express's spy photographers, the sleek new model is to replace the muscular M Coup&eacute;, and will combine styling influences from the new Z3 and X Coup&eacute; concept.
As our exclusive picture shows




Thats no photograph, its clearly CG. What the hell are they talking about?
 

Doggiedog

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
12,780
5
81
240BHP? 0-60 in 5.5 secs? That's supposed to take on the 911 and be the best car BMW has to offer?

The M3 is better than that and is just slightly more expensive.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
18,422
5
81
Looks pretty good. We really do need more pictures though. The way the color reflects its surroundings kind of hide the car's shape.
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
10,484
12
81
GTaudiophile, shouldn't you be "bowing down" because "the gearbox will be an advanced edition of the already impressive SMG semi-automatic"? :p
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
72,636
47
91


<< Nice looking! :)

But what the hell is with this:

Caught on camera for the first time ever by Auto Express's spy photographers, the sleek new model is to replace the muscular M Coup&eacute;, and will combine styling influences from the new Z3 and X Coup&eacute; concept.
As our exclusive picture shows




Thats no photograph, its clearly CG. What the hell are they talking about?
>>


What they mean is that it is a photo that they took of a test "mule" that has been retouched to reflect the actual production model. It's common practice.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
29,767
33
81
Haha! Yes, we should be! :p

It's only a 2.2L engine??? Ala, S2000 here? That would explain a lower cost if it's to complete with the likes of Mazda's RX-8 and Nissan's new Z.
 

techweenie

Senior member
Oct 24, 2001
301
0
0
How long until someone cracks the electronic limit on the speed? I would LOVE to get this car. Good thing I haven't bought that 325ci yet!
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
10,484
12
81
This car is supposed to compete with the 911 and the next-gen NSX and Skyline GT-R. So does anyone else think that "less than 5.5 seconds" for 0-60 better be a pretty conservative estimate? I would think it would need to get a lot closer to 5 seconds to make Porsche worry at all.

At least the price will undercut those other cars if they can really keep it under £35,000 loaded. That's what, $55K or so?
 

Doggiedog

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
12,780
5
81
At least the price will undercut those other cars if they can really keep it under £35,000 loaded. That's what, $55K or so?

That car won't even undercut the M3 which cost $45-50K and performs better.
 

dave5317

Senior member
Jun 18, 2001
697
0
0
Looks like it gonna beat the Z from Nissan. Nice job NFS4 for bringing this. WHat do u guys think bout it??

id still take the Lexus IS430.

I'd rather pay more for SC430. It looks real cool........
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
38,107
433
136
Nice car, but it's severely underpowered. 240 hp? I'm sorry, but you need at LEAST a 3.0L six in that.

Other than that I like it.

Viper GTS
 

NFS4

No Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
72,636
47
91


<< Nice car, but it's severely underpowered. 240 hp? I'm sorry, but you need at LEAST a 3.0L six in that.

Other than that I like it.

Viper GTS
>>


Come on Viper, think about it. The S2000 can kick some booty with 240 HP. Hell, the old M3 only had 240 HP and it was still one of the greatest sports cars of its time.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
38,107
433
136


<< Come on Viper, think about it. The S2000 can kick some booty with 240 HP. Hell, the old M3 only had 240 HP and it was still one of the greatest sports cars of its time. >>



And look how hard you have to drive it to get that!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for light sports cars with moderate power, but this is a BMW... Not a S2000 or MR2.

Viper GTS
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
10,484
12
81


<< Looks like it gonna beat the Z from Nissan >>


It should for $20K more... but it might not, actually. The Z is supposed to have a 280ish-hp engine. It will probably be heavier than this new Bimmer, though. If a twin-turbo Z ever comes along, look out! Meanwhile, the R35 GT-R is supposed to have ~400 horsepower. :Q


<< That car won't even undercut the M3 which cost $45-50K and performs better. >>


I checked out Edmunds.co.uk, and it looks like the M3 actually goes for around £39,000+ in the UK. My conversion rates wer a little off too, the new coupe will be the equivalent of about $50K while the M3 is about $57K in the UK. Still, the M3 has nearly 100 more horsepower yet this is supposed to be "the finest driving machine ever built by BMW"...?
 

MikeO

Diamond Member
Jan 17, 2001
3,026
0
0

Looks damn good! But if it seriously wants to compete with Porsche 911, as Viper GTS said, it's severely underpowered.