BMW meet canyon run accident, 1 dead

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"On the Santiago run, the Immola Red M3 spun out of control, flipped upside down, and one person died. no joke, his name was James. he burned to death because he was wedged in the back. this was a result of the driver going way over 100mph on a semi-sharp turn and gravel chipped his car. the front passenger survived with no injuries, but the driver lost his car, and he is badly cut/bruised.

Here is my perception of what happened:

I was in Scott's car (the guy with the E46 328i) and we were going about 60 and when we turn that corner, we see a mountain of flames. I was saying to myself please dont let it be one of the M's. when we got closer to the scene, i saw the M rim, and I saw that it was the Immola Red M3. I jetted out of the car, and started running towards the car, I hear some guy screaming for help, then when I get closer to the car, I hear three pops so I backed off. then the screaming from James ended. I knew that his life was over. there was nothing that anyone could do.

One of the guys is another M3 say his best friend burn to death, it wasnt a pretty site. There were a total of 4 E46 M3's , 1 burned down, 1 passed them up, and 2 stayed behind and helped out.

Then a whole bunch of motorist from both sides of traffic stopped their cars, and began helping out. one lady in a red civic hb had her window rolled down and said "thats what you ****ers get for street racing" everyone tried to call 911, but it was giving us the busy signal. and finally someone got through.

After Scott called 911, some guy in a truck comes up to the silver E46 M3 and asks "whose car is this" and then Socal M3 was on his cell phone, and says "its mine" and then the guy said "well come over here and sit on the curb, your being detained" after that, he busts out his badge. and then one passer by said "your a cop, thank god" and thats when me, scott, and the two guys in the TI's said **** it, we dont want to get involved, so we turned around and left, coz we couldnt handle **** like that.

I think the reason why this happened was that the guy in the Immola Red M3 wanted to beat the SMG Black M3, we all knew that he wasnt going to do it, the SMG M3 was just too fast, but then this guy was so determined to beat him, and he just couldnt do it, which resulted in him causing him to lose his car, someone else's life, and putting someone else in jeopardy.

Its obvious that the guy in the Immola Red is going be in jail these are some of the reasons why:

1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers

I dont know much more about it, but I think that everyone who attended this meet, should find out when the funeral services are, and to attended, its the least that we can do, considering that most people dont know who he is, but he didnt deserve this, to end his life at an early age.

This meet wouldnt have ended if everyone went on the run as a group, instead of running red lights, and speeding and cutting people off. we were broken up 3-4 different groups. and scorp didnt have his cell # on the directions which he should have done, so that we can tell him to wait so that everyone can catch up. another thing is that one of the guys who was in the Immola Red was trying to contact people with the walkie talkies on channel 71 or channel 7, and no one was answering. Im sure that if we would have gone as a group, not speeding and keeping a straight line throughout the canyon, this would have never happened.""


-http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137540

Amazing how many forums this is going around.




This hits kind of close to home because I go to a lot of socal meets (no racing though) and the victim has the same name as me.
 

SHoddyCOmp

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Yea, it is horrible, and it sure is getting around on lots of forums; but the more the better. I never really thought about it this way but my car is only going to be a 2 seater, the rear seat is going to be "deleted" and be cleanly carpeted there. I guess it could be a safety thing too somehow. Dying by fire has got to be one of the most worst ways to die. RIP James :(:(:(
 

bolido2000

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That sucks. People should stop doing stupid things thinking they are invincible. Hopefully the people in the Bimmer meet will remember this lesson for life.
 

Nebor

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So he took a too sharp turn at 100mph, and rolled it? Sideways roll I assume? Must have been quite a sharp turn to cause him to lose grip.

EDIT: Someone explain to me what a canyon run is.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Nebor
EDIT: Someone explain to me what a canyon run is.

I don't know either. It sounds like they were doing 100mph+ on city streets?? I saw PCH in one of the posts (Pacific Coast Highway I'm assuming), it's kind of a freeway that goes through some canyon-y areas. If you want to race, go to a fvcking track. If you crash and die because you're an idiot and race with everyday traffic around you, you deserve it and I have no sympathy.
 

Nebor

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BTW, I street race all the time. Mainly light to light, since I have 0 handling capabilities.
 

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I think they are talking about those canyons in Malibu between PCH and 101 (?). It's pretty much like the anime Initial D; mountain roads. I would sh!t in my pants driving over 60mph in my car over there. Most of the roads are 2 lanes are the turns are sharp and there are no shoulders.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: OS

one lady in a red civic hb had her window rolled down and said "thats what you ****ers get for street racing"

Well, I feel bad for this James guy, but she speaks the truth.

What's the average age for one of these canyon runs? It seems strange to me that a bunch of people would just get together and drive because they all have the same type of car...

Originally posted by: Nebor
BTW, I street race all the time. Mainly light to light, since I have 0 handling capabilities.

Welcome Ylen13's brother... please die.
 

SHoddyCOmp

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THat is exactly what it is. Apparently they went off a cliff (?) or something but either way got way out of hand and off the road somewhere. It's scarry stuff, I saw a video of one a little while ago and some people dont know what the hell they are doing.
 

Nebor

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I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.
 

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Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
Originally posted by: OS

one lady in a red civic hb had her window rolled down and said "thats what you ****ers get for street racing"

Well, I feel bad for this James guy, but she speaks the truth.

What's the average age for one of these canyon runs? It seems strange to me that a bunch of people would just get together and drive because they all have the same type of car...

A pure guess here would be 20's - 30's? Beats me. Never been on one. About people getting together though and driving because they have the same car, why not? THey are just owner groups. I have a BMW 2002, a classic and it is just addicting and most of all owners of these little cars like to meet others. I dont see the difference between that and a group of people that own a newer car.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

barbecuing?

Bwhahahaha...

Oh my, that was bad...

:evil:
 

SHoddyCOmp

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Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasnt driving though, the passenger seat is probably scarry enough, the back seat you see even less. I would be scared to death going those speeds, but I guess he thought it was all under control. No pun intended. :( I guess its a possibility he was though but.... damn no matter how you look at it, thats not a good way to go out.
 

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Originally posted by: SHoddyCOmp
Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasnt driving though, the passenger seat is probably scarry enough, the back seat you see even less. I would be scared to death going those speeds, but I guess he thought it was all under control. No pun intended. :( I guess its a possibility he was though but.... damn no matter how you look at it, thats not a good way to go out.

Probably the worst, actually...

I would probably be severely distressed if I was the guy that heard him calling for help in the burning car.. Man.......
 

Eli

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I swear to God I'm the only one having a double post problem...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: OS

1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers

#s 1 and 4 are not felonies, they are misdemeanors. #2 does not apply; because there was no intent to kill the passenger, how could it possibly be 1st degree murder? It would be involuntary or vehicular manslaughter.

I used to work with a guy who hit and killed a bystander during a street race. In California. He was paroled from prison after approximately three years for vehicular manslaughter, and was only in prison that long because he had fled the scene following the incident.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: SHoddyCOmp
Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasnt driving though, the passenger seat is probably scarry enough, the back seat you see even less. I would be scared to death going those speeds, but I guess he thought it was all under control. No pun intended. :( I guess its a possibility he was though but.... damn no matter how you look at it, thats not a good way to go out.

Oh, I forgot he wasn't the driver. That sucks then. Why would you go along if you didn't have your own BMW? Another reason never to ride in the back of a two door....

I still wholeheartedly endorse street racing though. It's a dangerous sport, just like many others. ANd it's dangerous to innocent bystanders, just like many others. (REmember that grandma that was killed by a baseball? Or those people who got crushed by a flying F1 tire?)
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: SHoddyCOmp
Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasnt driving though, the passenger seat is probably scarry enough, the back seat you see even less. I would be scared to death going those speeds, but I guess he thought it was all under control. No pun intended. :( I guess its a possibility he was though but.... damn no matter how you look at it, thats not a good way to go out.

Oh, I forgot he wasn't the driver. That sucks then. Why would you go along if you didn't have your own BMW? Another reason never to ride in the back of a two door....

I still wholeheartedly endorse street racing though. It's a dangerous sport, just like many others. ANd it's dangerous to innocent bystanders, just like many others. (REmember that grandma that was killed by a baseball? Or those people who got crushed by a flying F1 tire?)
Huh? Did you mean wholeheartedly not endorse?
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Nebor
I still wholeheartedly endorse street racing though. It's a dangerous sport, just like many others. ANd it's dangerous to innocent bystanders, just like many others. (REmember that grandma that was killed by a baseball? Or those people who got crushed by a flying F1 tire?)

How fvcking stupid are you? When you go to a sporting event, especially racing, you go into it expecting a certain degree of risk. When you are driving around town minding your own business there is no expectation that you should be risking your life because some fvcking moron with more testosterone than brains is going to come crashing into you at a hundred fvcking miles an hour.