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BMW M3 E46 model = sux0rz !

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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
 
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
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The effected models were produced during two months.( 11/01 and 12/01, WOW two years ago!) Also they do not cost 80K. They cost 50-60K.
Also...Repost...But worthy of it for people looking at buying one possibly to check into this. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
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The effected models were produced during two months.( 11/01 and 12/01, WOW two years ago!) Also they do not cost 80K. They cost 50-60K.
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have you seen the price on a used 2003 M3? the dealers still want 60K for one...they mark up new ones like crazy! if you;re gonna price a car for 60k without mark up...then it better FLAWLESS PERIOD...especially with the title "the ulitmate driving machine"
 
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
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$80K for an M3? Since when?

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
Click to expand...

The effected models were produced during two months.( 11/01 and 12/01, WOW two years ago!) Also they do not cost 80K. They cost 50-60K.
Click to expand...

have you seen the price on a used 2003 M3? the dealers still want 60K for one...they mark up new ones like crazy! if you;re gonna price a car for 60k without mark up...then it better FLAWLESS PERIOD...especially with the title "the ulitmate driving machine"
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You better tell that to Ferrari and Jag owners.

 
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
Click to expand...

The effected models were produced during two months.( 11/01 and 12/01, WOW two years ago!) Also they do not cost 80K. They cost 50-60K.
Click to expand...

have you seen the price on a used 2003 M3? the dealers still want 60K for one...they mark up new ones like crazy! if you;re gonna price a car for 60k without mark up...then it better FLAWLESS PERIOD...especially with the title "the ulitmate driving machine"
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I don't know where you live but the dealers in my area charge msrp.
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
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To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
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$80K for an M3? Since when?

Viper GTS
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You must mean $80K Canadian.

The E36 M3s had tons of problems too. My friend's M3's radiator kept failing because BMW used cheap plastic hoses that would break instead of rubber ones (my E36 325 also had the same problem). Also, the rear suspension on his M3 was a disaster. On two separate occasions, his shock towers came crashing through his trunk because of metal fatigue where the suspension was connected to the chasis.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
You must mean $80K Canadian.

The E36 M3s had tons of problems too. My friend's M3's radiator kept failing because BMW used cheap plastic hoses that would break instead of rubber ones (my E36 325 also had the same problem). Also, the rear suspension on his M3 was a disaster. On two separate occasions, his shock towers came crashing through his trunk because of metal fatigue where the suspension was connected to the chasis.
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or he's thinking of an M5

 
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: gregshin
Originally posted by: tweakmm
🙁
To be fair, I don't think anybody buys a M3 to shift at 3k RPMs, and I can't believe that constantly driving the car hard doesn't have some effect on this, but 15% of the cars from a year to have an engine failure is too much for a sports car.
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15% for any car is way too much...they friggin want 80K for this car brand new too!
Click to expand...

The effected models were produced during two months.( 11/01 and 12/01, WOW two years ago!) Also they do not cost 80K. They cost 50-60K.
Also...Repost...But worthy of it for people looking at buying one possibly to check into this. 🙂
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I'm sure NFS4 must have posted this at some point 😀
 
Everything in CA costs an arm and a leg. I lived in LA for 10 years and would never go back. A paradise called California? I think not. Gasoline for $2 a gallon? Nope. Buck thirty five here. Bumper to bumper traffic for three miles on a highway? Ha! I don't see why people struggle to survive out there. </rant>
 
Let's see, and EXTREMELY high strung 4cyl, that people buy to beat the sh!t out of.
Nope, no risk there for failure.

 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: gregshin
Used M3 prices in my area
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Sorry but you're getting raped. A BRAND NEW 2003 BMW in my area cost 47k Retail, or 43 Base Invoice

Kelly Blue Book

I'm still wondering where you got that "80k" from.
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I guess you've never heard of Markup ..

It's like 55k+ to purchase an M3 in NJ BTW that 47k retail is with nothing.. Since when do you see M3's running around with no options ?

 
Originally posted by: SammySon
Let's see, and EXTREMELY high strung 4cyl, that people buy to beat the sh!t out of.
Nope, no risk there for failure.
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Sorry but the M3 has an inline 6 boosted up to the max not an i4.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: SammySon
Let's see, and EXTREMELY high strung 4cyl, that people buy to beat the sh!t out of.
Nope, no risk there for failure.
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Sorry but the M3 has an inline 6 boosted up to the max not an i4.
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True that, but when I hear "boosted," I think forced induction (FI). The M3's 3.2L, like all current BMW's (and my 323iC's modest 2.5L), uses good ol' (& simple) natural aspiration (NA) technology. It appears that didn't help too much with that model year's reliability though...

The current M3 does wring about as much juice out of the I-6 as is possible without going FI one way or another, if you call that "boosted." 🙂

I still think the E36 M3 owns all... the Euro M3 that is. Mmmmm... engine swap. 😛
 
Originally posted by: LordUnum
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: SammySon
Let's see, and EXTREMELY high strung 4cyl, that people buy to beat the sh!t out of.
Nope, no risk there for failure.
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Sorry but the M3 has an inline 6 boosted up to the max not an i4.
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True that, but when I hear "boosted," I think forced induction (FI). The M3's 3.2L, like all current BMW's (and my 323iC's modest 2.5L), uses good ol' (& simple) natural aspiration (NA) technology. It appears that didn't help too much with that model year's reliability though...

The current M3 does wring about as much juice out of the I-6 as is possible without going FI one way or another, if you call that "boosted." 🙂

I still think the E36 M3 owns all... the Euro M3 that is. Mmmmm... engine swap. 😛
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I didn't mean to imply FI, just that the compression ratio is probably as high as it can go (kinda like the S2000).
 
Many 91-92 NSXs had an o-ring problem that will fvck up your transmission baaaad. But they later fixed that with no problem. Wouldn't expect it from a BMW though at this day and age. 😕
 
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