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Cobalt

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Oh boy, 33 lbs.

Not exciting.
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Directed towards the nay-sayers about BMW's decision to drop in a V8 because of weight issues. The new V8 weighing less than the 3.2L in-line 6 from the E46 by 33lbs is somewhat of a highlight. :roll:
 
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Dr. Detroit

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Big highlight is the return of the M3 sedan!

Sounds like this new model will be in the $60 - $70K range as a top loaded 335i is close to $55K now.

 
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andylawcc

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why are ppl b1tching about the relative lack of torque? I mean, the Mustang 4.6 V8 makes 300hp/320tq too. that's 25 more tq in exchange for 120 less hp and 10% less displacement.

the RS4 has a 4.2L V8, that makes 420hp/317tq, and ppl don't seems to pay attention since it is in the 300tq range. 295tq just seems a lot weaker.


and just in case anyone b1tches about the technicality, when I say tq it mean ft-lb.
 
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Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
why are ppl b1tching about the relative lack of torque? I mean, the Mustang 4.6 V8 makes 300hp/320tq too. that's 25 more tq in exchange for 120 less hp and 10% less displacement.

the RS4 has a 4.2L V8, that makes 420hp/317tq, and ppl don't seems to pay attention since it is in the 300tq range. 295tq just seems a lot weaker.


and just in case anyone b1tches about the technicality, when I say tq it mean ft-lb.
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I'm a fan of lower revving, high displacement engines, thats all.
 
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Jahee

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
nice! just out of curiosity, what did the old M3 make for torque?
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262 lb-ft... Slightly lower.. I think it just looks like a bigger difference because the HP figure starts with 4 and the TQ starts with 2..
 
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fstime

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Note, the engines torque curve is almost completely flat, making 85%+ of the torque at 2,000 rpm and carrying that all the way through the rev line.
 
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PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: cobalt
420HP/295lb-ft of torque. 8300RPM red line. Oh, and it's 33 lbs lighter than the S54. Official PDF.
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...and still heavier than an LS1. :p ;)
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<sarcasm>But the LS1 makes too much torque and has a lower center of gravity...why would you want that unrefined American crap? </sarcasm>
 
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RichUK

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
How the hell does this have less torque than the 335i?
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The 335i utilises a twin turbo setup on its inline-6 engine, where as the flagship M-tech cars are only ever 'normally aspirated'.
 
GTaudiophile

GTaudiophile

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Ferrari F430
V8, 4.3L
Redline: 8500 RPM
483 HP @ 8500 RPM (112 HP / Litre)
343 ft-lbs. @ 5250 RPM

2008 BMW M3
V8, 4.0L
Redline: 8300 RPM
420 HP @ 8300 RPM (105 HP/Litre)
295 ft-lbs. @ 3900 RPM

I would say BMW got pretty close to what most people consider to be the best V8 on the planet...for a fraction of the price!
 
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Jahee

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ferrari F430
V8, 4.3L
Redline: 8500 RPM
483 HP @ 8500 RPM (112 HP / Litre)
343 ft-lbs. @ 5250 RPM

2008 BMW M3
V8, 4.0L
Redline: 8300 RPM
420 HP @ 8300 RPM (105 HP/Litre)
295 ft-lbs. @ 3900 RPM

I would say BMW got pretty close to what most people consider to be the best V8 on the planet...for a fraction of the price!
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Or Audi got closer..

2006 Audi RS4
V8, 4.2L
Redline: 8250 RPM
420 HP @ 7800 RPM (100 HP/Litre)
317 ft-lbs. @ 5500 RPM
 
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