BMW admits to fuel pump flaw

[sisq0kidd]

I don't agree. The UK test now has a component whereby the hood is lifted and you are asked to point out a key component, such as the oil filler cap. If you cannot, you fail and have to start again. I think it's an excellent addition.

What don't you agree with?

I'm all for having higher standards and implementing more thorough tests for driving.

What I am challenging is the definition of reasonable expectations and calling people stupid for, what I think is appropriate actions, for a subjective standard.

 

[ShawnD1]

Please explain to me how panicking makes any situation better. When's the last time an air traffic controller, pilot, police officer, firefighter, emergency medical provider, etc improved a situation by panicking?

Doesn't happen.

My solution: pull over until you know what's wrong
You and Zenmervolt: keep driving even though the throttle just lagged, the car is shaking, and the power steer just cut out

I think my idea works

 

[punjabiplaya]

And then there's people like me who go nuts thinking about every odd little sound after working on a car..wondering if it was there before and had just gone unnoticed... 😛

yeah, but your fear is not from ignorance, it's the exact opposite. You understand how all (or at least most) of the pieces work and know their failure points. So if you hear a thud while shifting you scream, OMG TRANNY MOUNT BROKE (or bushing or w/e) vs non-car people's reaction of OMG ENGINE BLEW UP.

I agree with Z as I said before, we need some Finnish/German/etc... driver's ed. Where you actually learn to drive including emergency procedures and learning about the machine itself rather than just driving through town with a fat PE coach sitting next to you.

 

[coxmaster]

So if I'm flying a 2 engine jet airplane and the left engine dies, I should totally not panic or worry at all since there are lots of single engine planes that work just fine. When given the opportunity to land and figure out wtf is wrong with it, I should just keep flying and keep it real. D:

yeah, that's pretty much exactly what you would do.. That's exactly what we train for.. Obviously you dont keep flying forever, but you dont just panic and land wherever because theres no need

 

[DivideBYZero]

What don't you agree with?

I'm all for having higher standards and implementing more thorough tests for driving.

What I am challenging is the definition of reasonable expectations and calling people stupid for, what I think is appropriate actions, for a subjective standard.

Yup, re-reading that the first sentence doesn't make sense, I don't know what I disagreed with, please disregard it. My bad.

 

[jlee]

My solution: pull over until you know what's wrong
You and Zenmervolt: keep driving even though the throttle just lagged, the car is shaking, and the power steer just cut out

I think my idea works

I think you should look up the difference between "panic" and "worry."

 

[rh71]

It's probably hyperbole for most of us here, but I don't doubt for a second that there are legitimate concerns where people are indeed scared for their lives.

I think people in The Garage get a little shortsighted when it comes to the general populace and cars. It isn't out of the question for people to feel their life is in danger when they are on the road with fast moving cars and all of a sudden their car isn't working properly.

There are people on regional forums where they say they won't even drive on particular highways because it gets crazy. It's fine for most of us but for many others they are very afraid of cars going 65mph across 3-4 lanes.

 

[sisq0kidd]

There are people on regional forums where they say they won't even drive on particular highways because it gets crazy. It's fine for most of us but for many others they are very afraid of cars going 65mph across 3-4 lanes.

That's how my dad is. He hasn't taken the freeway in years because he thinks it's too dangerous for him (he's also 63 years of age). Not because he thinks he'll lose control, but he thinks OTHER drivers are too crazy.

Fine by me though. He's my dad and all, but I don't want him slowing down my progress along the 605 😉

 

[HarryLui]

What I want to know is, who is the OEM supplier?

This isn't a first time a car with 300hp is made, there are certainly better fuel pump than what BMW is using.

 

[Doggiedog]

What I want to know is, who is the OEM supplier?

This isn't a first time a car with 300hp is made, there are certainly better fuel pump than what BMW is using.

IIRC, it's Bosch.

 

[Vette73]

What I want to know is, who is the OEM supplier?

This isn't a first time a car with 300hp is made, there are certainly better fuel pump than what BMW is using.

OEMs make parts based on the specs given to them. Its up to the car maker to test all the parts to make sure it meets their specs and that their specs are correct.

When the Corvette was being tested they had a fuel pump fail. They took it apart and found 1 part was just barly out of spec but it caused it to heat up and fail. Their spec, gm, was good but the maker was just barly out. So they caught it on testing. Its what car companies do.
That and this problem, BMW, has been going on for a long time. So if it was a simple OEM issue it would/should have been fixed a long time ago. This makes me think it is on BMW's specs and their faulty testing.

 

[Doggiedog]

OEMs make parts based on the specs given to them. Its up to the car maker to test all the parts to make sure it meets their specs and that their specs are correct.

When the Corvette was being tested they had a fuel pump fail. They took it apart and found 1 part was just barly out of spec but it caused it to heat up and fail. Their spec, gm, was good but the maker was just barly out. So they caught it on testing. Its what car companies do.
That and this problem, BMW, has been going on for a long time. So if it was a simple OEM issue it would/should have been fixed a long time ago. This makes me think it is on BMW's specs and their faulty testing.

Their testing hasn't been faulty because the customers have been their test bed. 🙁

 

[JCH13]

I agree with Z as I said before, we need some Finnish/German/etc... driver's ed. Where you actually learn to drive including emergency procedures and learning about the machine itself rather than just driving through town with a fat PE coach sitting next to you.

In my drivers ed class at least we did stuff like this. My teacher would do things like have us change a "flat" tire, hand us food while we were driving to see if we got too distracted, and even rip the e-brake on snowy roads to see if we could correct a skid. We'd also stop for gas and check the oil, things like that. Maybe I just had an abnormally good drivers ed class...

 

[coxmaster]

In my drivers ed class at least we did stuff like this. My teacher would do things like have us change a "flat" tire, hand us food while we were driving to see if we got too distracted, and even rip the e-brake on snowy roads to see if we could correct a skid. We'd also stop for gas and check the oil, things like that. Maybe I just had an abnormally good drivers ed class...

Yeah, that does sound like an abnormally good drivers ed class. I took drivers ed through a program my high schooled used to offer (keep in mind, this was only 4 years ago..) and im pretty sure my teacher didnt even know how to check the oil or change a flat..

 

[RiDE]

Nothing new for BMW... old E39s and E46s have a dead pixel problem with their gauge clusters. They'll split the repair cost with you if you bug them. lol Or you can send it to some guy on ebay for $200.