Blue Laser DVD Recorder only $3,815

AU Tiger

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Sweet. So in 2006, I should be able to snag one for about $150 after coupon.
 

dolph

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what i don't understand is why the discs are only in 23 gb, 25 gb, and 27 gb sizes. does that seem a little weird to anyone else?
 

SuperShaz

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Originally posted by: dolph
what i don't understand is why the discs are only in 23 gb, 25 gb, and 27 gb sizes. does that seem a little weird to anyone else?

Are those not standard sizes for blu ray discs? Not many people know anything about this technology yet, so how could that possibly sound "weird" to us?

- Shaz
 

zikronix

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Sony has no plans to launch the recorder overseas, Yanagisawa said.

leave it to sony to fusck things up as usual. Friggin sony they suck
 

jtate82

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Originally posted by: SuperShaz
Originally posted by: dolph
what i don't understand is why the discs are only in 23 gb, 25 gb, and 27 gb sizes. does that seem a little weird to anyone else?

Are those not standard sizes for blu ray discs? Not many people know anything about this technology yet, so how could that possibly sound "weird" to us?

- Shaz


It sounded kinda wierd to me too. Regardless of whether we know much about blu-ray technology, the difference in size just isn't that great. Going from the minimum 23 gb to the maximum 27 gb would yield only about 20 min more recording time. I suppose that might make the difference when trying to fit full length movie on one disc, but it does seem like it's adding more confusion for minimal gain.
 

TXHokie

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Sweet deal...got me two!!! This will make an excellent gift for my 10 yr old nephew with his birthday coming up.

- Bill Gates
 

msapute

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Originally posted by: TXHokie
Sweet deal...got me two!!! This will make an excellent gift for my 10 yr old nephew with his birthday coming up.

- Bill Gates


LOL
 

mboy

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Why would this be considered a hot deal? Nothing hot about this at all, sorry!
 

e-Spider

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Originally posted by: huesmann
I can just fill my PC with a dozen 250GB hard drives for that price.

Yeah, but comparing a dozen HDD w/ 1 DVD in size & weight, I'd go w/ DVD!
 

OddTSi

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Originally posted by: zikronix
leave it to sony to fusck things up as usual. Friggin sony they suck

Also, leave it to sony to make this COMPLETELY incompatible with the current DVD format. Look at the media, it's a cartridge. DVD-RAM anyone?

I'm personally waiting for the Toshiba-NEC blue laser DVD format, which is completely backwards compatible with todays DVDs.
 

krackato

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What the hell ever happened to Constellation 3d's crazy 100gb/disc FMD technology? 27gb seems kind of tame in my opinion. Still, it's going to be a lot of fun.

Oh, and the whole cartridge thing is good development. Always having your data safely protected by a plastic cartridge is a good thing. No more scratches, more stable media, etc. DVD rot and scratches are the only reason I'm hesitant to use DVD-R as a backup solution.
 

AbsolutDealage

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Makes ya wonder tho.... even if it was 52x recording (7800 KB/s) it would take about an hour to record a full disc. Kind of like back when we had our 2x cd burners :Q

That will probably be somewhere around the max recording speed, I think there is some physical limitation around 52x that prevents it from going much higher. I guess thats not too bad, considering the amount of data, but I'ts still annoying nonetheless.
 

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Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Makes ya wonder tho.... even if it was 52x recording (7800 KB/s) it would take about an hour to record a full disc. Kind of like back when we had our 2x cd burners :Q

That will probably be somewhere around the max recording speed, I think there is some physical limitation around 52x that prevents it from going much higher. I guess thats not too bad, considering the amount of data, but I'ts still annoying nonetheless.


I read somewhere that the disc itself can't sustain speeds greater than 52x cause it overheats. But as always, where there's will there's a way :). I'm sure someone's gonna get rich soon with a new high speed recording technology.
 

DurocShark

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I read somewhere that the disc itself can't sustain speeds greater than 52x cause it overheats. But as always, where there's will there's a way . I'm sure someone's gonna get rich soon with a new high speed recording technology.

Multiple lasers arrayed around the disc, each writing a different portion of the disc. :D

Of course, I'm full of poop, but that's the only way I can see getting past the spindle speed limitations of current media.

Now, if we go with ferroceramic discs... But then we'd just be working with hard drives. heh
 

Dreadogg

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Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage
Makes ya wonder tho.... even if it was 52x recording (7800 KB/s) it would take about an hour to record a full disc. Kind of like back when we had our 2x cd burners :Q

That will probably be somewhere around the max recording speed, I think there is some physical limitation around 52x that prevents it from going much higher. I guess thats not too bad, considering the amount of data, but I'ts still annoying nonetheless.

dont think 52X would be that same speed here (7800 KB/s) pretty sure X represents the time it takes to write the lenght of the disk. size divided by time just as DVD record speeds are close to 8 times as fast as cd speeds 1x is 8x speed, just more data writen in the same time at same speed. Thats why 16x read speed on DVD drives blows away cd rom read speeds! 16x x 8x = 128x just estimating here!
 

Goosemaster

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This thing might be very fast...

1x for cds is 150KB/s


I believe for DVDs it is something around 1.35MB/s


Therefore 4xDVD burners output 5.4MB/s about 19GB per hour theorectially....


I am guessing they will make them faster.


:D
 

everman

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Not worth it at all imo. Why in the world pay over $1/gig when you could just get yourself a 200+gb HD to record your shows? I would assume someone willing to pay 3 grand on that thing could afford a $1500 pc + 1 TB HD space + HD decoder etc etc... which you could do for around the cost of that player and media.
 

Hazer

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Hmm. Interesting theory there. ferroceramic media. It would have to cartridged. Media would be about $50 a disk. Storage capacity would be about 80GB (using both sides). Speed would be ... average 40,000kB/s?

Very little time invovlved with developing the reader/writer mechanism. Although the chalenge would be making the cartridge line-up with the magnetic head perfectly.