~Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD~

SVT Cobra

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Before reading this post, vote in the first poll. (Please follow the instructions to get the most realistic and accruate results). Thank You. :)


























Now Read This And Vote In The 2nd Poll (It is a complete overview of what each format has to offer, I myself must admit I did not know all of it, and the article is a very good read. I also know for a fact some people have no idea what each has to offer, but still argue for one over the other (one person I know just likes the name "Blu-Ray").




I am just curious to see by what margin this works out. :)







Update:


BLu Ray is advertising a lot more! That's all I see, they even have Popular Science paid off to write an article about how good Blu Ray is over HDDVD (if you pick up the Veyron issue of Pop Sci last month you will know what I mean).


Now I see a lot more HD-DVD ads also, but still more BluRay, on TV also now.
 

SVT Cobra

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Currently I am for Blu-Ray because of the 25GB (and potential for a lot more) of space, not to mention I am not one for really caring about price when it comes to computer parts.
 
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As long as they agreed on a common resolution, I'm happy. Say, 1920x1080, progressive, 60fps. Then all the next generation of HDTVs will be made with that.

I'm sick and f***ing tired of hunting for a TV with a true 1280x720p resolution instead of this asinine 1366x768 BS. Yes, it's great that you can fit 1024x768 without vertical scaling ... but everything else looks like ass. You had it right the first time; leave it alone!

- M4H

 

Ornery

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Let me know when you all get this crap worked out , there's a good bit more HD content, and big screens drop even more in price. Then, I might just jump on the HD band wagon! That's where I stand, with my 36" flat CRT at the moment.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Let me know when you all get this crap worked out , there's a good bit more HD content, and big screens drop even more in price. Then, I might just jump on the HD band wagon! That's where I stand, with my 36" flat CRT at the moment.

I also have a flat CRT currently.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

I also have a flat CRT currently.
Ah, but I should have added Standard Definition. My God, I've been listening to this HD hype for about a decade now. Like I said, let me know when this is all sorted out...
 

FoBoT

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i have not a clue

it this like VHS vs. BETA or is it different?

my stuff will keep working for a coulple of years and netflix will keep renting me DVD's until something happens, right?
 

GTaudiophile

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Could care less. I'll be interested when either 1) one standard wins over the other, or 2) when stand-alone players can read and write both formats for $300 or less.
 

Geomagick

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i have not a clue

it this like VHS vs. BETA or is it different?

my stuff will keep working for a coulple of years and netflix will keep renting me DVD's until something happens, right?

In order.

Just like many people

Very similar to the VHS / Betamax format war. The inferior technology won there, mainly for its better packaging.

Of course your kit will continue to work, and DVD's are unlikely to disappear anytime soon.

In fact if you have a HD capable screen feed it a nice signal from a good DVD player, I use a Denon 2910, and DVD's will look awesome.
 

Eeezee

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I voted randomly in both polls just to screw with you

Without the public release of either format, it is impossible to determine their reliability, cost, and a WIDE range of other factors. Predicting a winner or choosing a favorite is like making a poll in which only 10 people are polled and claiming that it is a fair representation of a country's opinions.

You can have facts released by the industry and select hardware experts to help you make this decision, but only 10% of the data is there. We need a release of both products before anything can be said. What if there is some fundamental flaw in one of them that has gone unidentified?

Hopefully this is no worse than the DVD+-R war and there are eventually inexpensive combo players. I would vote for Blu-Ray if only for the higher data capacity (data backups), but I want more data.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
I voted randomly in both polls just to screw with you

Without the public release of either format, it is impossible to determine their reliability, cost, and a WIDE range of other factors. Predicting a winner or choosing a favorite is like making a poll in which only 10 people are polled and claiming that it is a fair representation of a country's opinions.

You can have facts released by the industry and select hardware experts to help you make this decision, but only 10% of the data is there. We need a release of both products before anything can be said. What if there is some fundamental flaw in one of them that has gone unidentified?

Hopefully this is no worse than the DVD+-R war and there are eventually inexpensive combo players. I would vote for Blu-Ray if only for the higher data capacity (data backups), but I want more data.

Wow you sir failed at the point of the poll, way to go!
 

Saint Nick

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
I voted randomly in both polls just to screw with you

Without the public release of either format, it is impossible to determine their reliability, cost, and a WIDE range of other factors. Predicting a winner or choosing a favorite is like making a poll in which only 10 people are polled and claiming that it is a fair representation of a country's opinions.

You can have facts released by the industry and select hardware experts to help you make this decision, but only 10% of the data is there. We need a release of both products before anything can be said. What if there is some fundamental flaw in one of them that has gone unidentified?

Hopefully this is no worse than the DVD+-R war and there are eventually inexpensive combo players. I would vote for Blu-Ray if only for the higher data capacity (data backups), but I want more data.

 

SVT Cobra

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jndietz
Originally posted by: Eeezee
I voted randomly in both polls just to screw with you

Without the public release of either format, it is impossible to determine their reliability, cost, and a WIDE range of other factors. Predicting a winner or choosing a favorite is like making a poll in which only 10 people are polled and claiming that it is a fair representation of a country's opinions.

You can have facts released by the industry and select hardware experts to help you make this decision, but only 10% of the data is there. We need a release of both products before anything can be said. What if there is some fundamental flaw in one of them that has gone unidentified?

Hopefully this is no worse than the DVD+-R war and there are eventually inexpensive combo players. I would vote for Blu-Ray if only for the higher data capacity (data backups), but I want more data.

Yay for childish morons who cannot grasp what the poll is for!
 

arod

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im for blueray but hd-dvd will probably win.... unless blueray really does something with the costs i dont see blueray winning when a HD-DVD is cheaper.

plus i want to see the reliability of a .1mm protective layer (if its actually adequate to protect a bd in real like usage).
 

Koing

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However the major advantage of HD DVD technology is that it will cost next to nothing for manufacturers to adapt their production lines, thus potentially keeping costs down for the consumer.

You KNOW that is COMPLETE BS. NO manufactures are going to keep the discs prices down. They will more then likely cost exactly the same as the BD. They will charge as much as they can get.

Koing
 

randomlinh

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i want hd-dvd to win. the whole sony rootkit fiasco has put me over edge with them.. ugh. it's not a logical or valid reason... but i know that :p

with that said, depending on the cost of the ps3, blu-ray will probably edge out. However, what I would REALLY like to see is optical media that is just more reliable. Even at 50GB for DL BD, we have these 500GB HD's we'll need to back up. Altho, at the same time, HD's hopefully will just get dirt cheap. And initially, DL BD will probably cost more than a HD when you need 10 of them to back up 500GB... heh.

either way, the consumer loses. so much money is being put into getting one format to win over the other.. and all the stupid DRM crap they're putting in... BLAH.
 

WobbleWobble

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The difference between Blu-ray and HD DVD is the size of the aperture used on the optical pick-up head inside drives and players. Blu-ray uses a 0.85 aperture whereas HD DVDs only use a 0.65 aperture. Finally compare that to current DVDs? 0.6 aperture. The reason these are different is because of the surface layer of the actual discs. Their thickness limits the effectiveness of the laser due to optical effects.

Can someone reword that to something I might be able to understand? :)