Blu Ray question.

[de8212]

Finally got a Blu Ray player and connected it to my LCD last night. The only Bu Ray movie I have is Iron Man so I don't know if what I am asking is normal. Why would a reasonably new movie not fill the entire screen up? I still have black bars on the top and bottom.

Then I put in Horton Hears a Who DVD (not Blu Ray) and it filled the screen entirely. I din't have the dvd case it came in to check to see if it was Full Screen or Widescreen. Would that be the only difference?

It just seems that with Blu Ray being the newest technology being played on a 1080p LCD, the entire screen would be full.

Is this just normal?

 

[Capt Caveman]

/facepalm

 

[SpunkyJones]

Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

 

[ConwayJim]

different aspect ratios

 

[Joemonkey]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

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[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

This, and I agree, its ridiculous. Why can't we stick to one fucking ratio, lets say someone doesn't watch sports... they just bought a $5k Pioneer Kuro and the screen doesn't get filled when watching blu ray? Give me a break.


honestly, what is the point of 16:10/16:9 besides sports? Do we need the news in widescreen? OK 4:3 was obviously not even close to movie theater standards, so they sell 100 million new tv's in ANOTHER incorrect aspect ratio?

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

This, and I agree, its ridiculous. Why can't we stick to one fucking ratio, lets say someone doesn't watch sports... they just bought a $5k Pioneer Kuro and the screen doesn't get filled? Give me a break.

:laugh:

 

[sswingle]

Iron Man is indeed 2.35:1

 

[KeithTalent]

Yay, this question again! Woohoo!

KT

Edit: also, wrong forum!

 

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

This, and I agree, its ridiculous. Why can't we stick to one fucking ratio, lets say someone doesn't watch sports... they just bought a $5k Pioneer Kuro and the screen doesn't get filled when watching blu ray? Give me a break.


honestly, what is the point of 16:10/16:9 besides sports? Do we need the news in widescreen? OK 4:3 was obviously not even close to movie theater standards, so they sell 100 million new tv's in ANOTHER incorrect aspect ratio?

There ARE movies made in 16:9...

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

This, and I agree, its ridiculous. Why can't we stick to one fucking ratio, lets say someone doesn't watch sports... they just bought a $5k Pioneer Kuro and the screen doesn't get filled when watching blu ray? Give me a break.


honestly, what is the point of 16:10/16:9 besides sports? Do we need the news in widescreen? OK 4:3 was obviously not even close to movie theater standards, so they sell 100 million new tv's in ANOTHER incorrect aspect ratio?

There ARE movies made in 16:9...

I think what he is saying is ALL media should be in 16:9 ratio. And i agree. The black bars and different ratio from one show or movie to another is retarded. Would make things so much easier.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
/facepalm

APRIL FOOLS!!!!!

Haha! He got all of you guys!






( I hope )

 

[de8212]

Thanks. I knew it was something to do with AR but I honestly never did much research on it.

It's just stupid that Horton Hears a freaking Who fills up the screen but a multi-million $ movie won't.

I don't watch many movies so it won't be a huge deal, just kinda confused why there isn't one standard for blu rays.

 

[Joemonkey]

You guys really need to read the wiki link i posted earlier, it explains the "why" very well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Since you are all lazy asshats...

Why 16:9?
When the 16:9 aspect ratio was proposed by Kerns H. Powers, nobody was creating 16:9 videos. The popular choices in 1980 were 4:3 (based on television standard's ratio at the time), 1.66:1 (the European "flat" ratio), 1.85:1 (the American "flat" ratio), 2.20:1 (the ratio of 70 mm films) and 2.35:1 (the ratio of anamorphic widescreen films). Powers discovered that all of those aspects when normalized to constant area would fit within an outer rectangle and when over-lapped, all shared a common inner rectangle.[1] The aspect ratio of these rectangles is simply the geometric mean of the extremes of 4:3 and 2.35:1, that is, 1.77:1, which is coincidentally close to 16:9, or 1.78:1.

While 1.78:1 was initially selected as a compromise format, the popularity of HDTV broadcast has solidified 1.78:1 as perhaps the most important video aspect ratio for the future. Most 1.33:1 and 2.35:1 video is now recorded such that a 1.78:1 inner rectangle is "protected" for HD broadcast

 

[sswingle]

It is how the producer/director wanted to make the movie. They would be the ones that need to follow a standard. Blu-Ray just presents it how they made it.

 

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
You guys really need to read the wiki link i posted earlier, it explains the "why" very well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)

Since you are all lazy asshats...

Why 16:9?
When the 16:9 aspect ratio was proposed by Kerns H. Powers, nobody was creating 16:9 videos. The popular choices in 1980 were 4:3 (based on television standard's ratio at the time), 1.66:1 (the European "flat" ratio), 1.85:1 (the American "flat" ratio), 2.20:1 (the ratio of 70 mm films) and 2.35:1 (the ratio of anamorphic widescreen films). Powers discovered that all of those aspects when normalized to constant area would fit within an outer rectangle and when over-lapped, all shared a common inner rectangle.[1] The aspect ratio of these rectangles is simply the geometric mean of the extremes of 4:3 and 2.35:1, that is, 1.77:1, which is coincidentally close to 16:9, or 1.78:1.

While 1.78:1 was initially selected as a compromise format, the popularity of HDTV broadcast has solidified 1.78:1 as perhaps the most important video aspect ratio for the future. Most 1.33:1 and 2.35:1 video is now recorded such that a 1.78:1 inner rectangle is "protected" for HD broadcast

Yea, but they'll still bitch and moan even after reading that.

 

[amdhunter]

Just wait until the 1440p displays start appearing...you'll have bars in the middle of the screen.

 

[de8212]

Originally posted by: sswingle

Yea, but they'll still bitch and moan even after reading that.

yep.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: sswingle

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Depends on the aspect ratio of the movie. Iron Man is probably 2:35:1, your TV is 16:9, so you would see black bars.

This, and I agree, its ridiculous. Why can't we stick to one fucking ratio, lets say someone doesn't watch sports... they just bought a $5k Pioneer Kuro and the screen doesn't get filled when watching blu ray? Give me a break.


honestly, what is the point of 16:10/16:9 besides sports? Do we need the news in widescreen? OK 4:3 was obviously not even close to movie theater standards, so they sell 100 million new tv's in ANOTHER incorrect aspect ratio?

There ARE movies made in 16:9...

I think what he is saying is ALL media should be in 16:9 ratio. And i agree. The black bars and different ratio from one show or movie to another is retarded. Would make things so much easier.

That's like telling a band they can only use 1 guitar, 1 bass, 1 microphone, and 1 drum kit... utterly retarded. Let the artists(in this case directors) choose how they want to present their work. Different AR's have different feels, just like different instruments have different sounds.

 

[Baked]

Demand your money back, you got cheated.

 

[conehead433]

Dude, you bought a Blu-ray player because you wanted the best. Now go out and get a HD projector and a 2.35:1 screen with electronic masking for the sides. All movies will fill up the part of the screen you want to watch. Personally I prefer 1.78:1 or 1.85:1 for everything as either nicely fills a regular HD 16:9 screen. 2.35:1 and 2.40:1 are too wide to me.