Blu-ray movie doesn't look very good

supesman

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my tv doesn't have hdmi input but can display upt o 1080i. I bought the planet earth blu-ray and honestly the picture quality kinda sux. I changed the video settings on the PS3 to component, the games look fine but the blu-ray movie doesn't. IS the problem the cables that i'm using? I bought some cheapo ones off ebay for $5.
 

supesman

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It's a 4 year old hitachi rear projection tv, that's freakin' huge.

Astrallite - are you sure about this? My tv automatically changes the resolution to 720p when i play a game and it displays 1080i when i watch the movie so I would assume that the PS3 can go higher than 480p. Maybe you're thinking of composite?
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
I'm almost completely certain the PS3 only displays 480p with component.

Sorry, not true.

OP, what about the picture makes it look "not good"?
 

alcoholbob

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Well I'm not talking about 1080i and 720i. I can't imagine the PS3, the forefront of HDCP handicaps, allowing HDCP material (720p, 1080p) through component.
 

supesman

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PurdueRy, the picture when I compare it to my HD signal from my cable box looks very grainy. I would assume that the Blu-ray would look just as good as the HD signal i'm getting right? The picture is not sharp at all, looks almost like a dvd.
 

alcoholbob

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Again, from everywhere I've read, including the Sony forums, 480p is the max on the PS3 through component when you playback HDCP-encoded material. Just like you can't get multichannel linear pcm with optical toslink or digital coaxial. The bandwidth is there--HDCP is handicapping you.

Maybe you guys have special PS3s. Just like the guy on the 2K forums getting 80fps playing Bioshock on max settings with a 1999 laptop. Miracles do happen, I've been told.
 

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I got the BluRay PC drive this past black friday and output it through a dvi-hdmi cable to my 32" Visio Plasma and Im really not impressed at all either. The movies seem grainy and very close to dvd quaility. The HD-DVDs looked better in my opinion, but really the difference wasnt mindblowing for me. I needed a dvdrom anyway and got the player for $95 so Im not going to complain, but at $30 a pop Ill be really choosy about which movies I buy
 

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480P limitation is a farce. limited to 1080i (physical limit). no 1080P as the unit cannot upscale. Meaning a SD-DVD will be displayed natively. Not sure if ripping the movies (SD) allows for upscaling, never payed attention.


Visio won't be the best. 720 will not look the best (assuming it's 720). Bluray is/has the ability to be superior, but not matured...

If the cables are absolute garbage, meaning not able to handle a 1080 signal, then it could be them.
You said the tv is 1080i native? If so the pic should look good since there is no excess scaling.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: shempf
480P limitation is a farce. limited to 1080i (physical limit). no 1080P as the unit cannot upscale. Meaning a SD-DVD will be displayed natively. Not sure if ripping the movies (SD) allows for upscaling, never payed attention.


Visio won't be the best. 720 will not look the best (assuming it's 720). Bluray is/has the ability to be superior, but not matured...

If the cables are absolute garbage, meaning not able to handle a 1080 signal, then it could be them.
You said the tv is 1080i native? If so the pic should look good since there is no excess scaling.

I highly doubt it...very few TV's are 1080i native...
 

supesman

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Yeah the tv can output 1080i and it looks great when i'm watching an HD channel but the blu-ray movie doesn't look good at all. I guess i'll wait until there's a good deal on a 1080p set w/ HDMI. It is possible that it could be the cables but then again I have no way of making sure.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Astrallite
Again, from everywhere I've read, including the Sony forums, 480p is the max on the PS3 through component when you playback HDCP-encoded material. Just like you can't get multichannel linear pcm with optical toslink or digital coaxial. The bandwidth is there--HDCP is handicapping you.

Maybe you guys have special PS3s. Just like the guy on the 2K forums getting 80fps playing Bioshock on max settings with a 1999 laptop. Miracles do happen, I've been told.

The 480p limit is only for DVD. You can't upconvert over component. However, Blu-ray's will output at up to 1080i. Doesn't make any sense but that's the way it is.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: supesman
Yeah the tv can output 1080i and it looks great when i'm watching an HD channel but the blu-ray movie doesn't look good at all. I guess i'll wait until there's a good deal on a 1080p set w/ HDMI. It is possible that it could be the cables but then again I have no way of making sure.

What resolution does your TV say its receiving when playing the blu-ray movie. I imagine it will say 1080i. Try 720p output from the playstation as well because that's probably closer to your TV's native resolution.
 

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: supesman
Yeah the tv can output 1080i and it looks great when i'm watching an HD channel but the blu-ray movie doesn't look good at all. I guess i'll wait until there's a good deal on a 1080p set w/ HDMI. It is possible that it could be the cables but then again I have no way of making sure.

What resolution does your TV say its receiving when playing the blu-ray movie. I imagine it will say 1080i. Try 720p output from the playstation as well because that's probably closer to your TV's native resolution.

It sounds like he may have a CRT RPTV...
 

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I was under the impression that the PS3 would output BR-Ds at 1080i over component, but DVDs at only 480p. I'm not sure why IQ would be so bad with a movie - maybe play with your TV's color settings?
 

supesman

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yeah my tv does say 1080i when i'm playing the blu-ray movie. When i play games, it says 720p, i guess it depends on the game. I guess i can try limiting the output from the PS3 to 720p and see what it looks like.
 

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Actually, I read somewhere that the actual resolution when playing Bluray over non-protected cables (such as Component) has a max output resolution of 960x540, which is exactly 1/4th of 1080p. It's still sharper than DVD, but not by much.

Only with HDMI (or HDCP DVI -> HDMI) can you achieve 720p/1080i/1080p.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: shempf
480P limitation is a farce. limited to 1080i (physical limit). no 1080P as the unit cannot upscale. Meaning a SD-DVD will be displayed natively. Not sure if ripping the movies (SD) allows for upscaling, never payed attention.


Visio won't be the best. 720 will not look the best (assuming it's 720). Bluray is/has the ability to be superior, but not matured...

If the cables are absolute garbage, meaning not able to handle a 1080 signal, then it could be them.
You said the tv is 1080i native? If so the pic should look good since there is no excess scaling.

I highly doubt it...very few TV's are 1080i native...

Except for the TVs like the OP has.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: supesman
yeah my tv does say 1080i when i'm playing the blu-ray movie. When i play games, it says 720p, i guess it depends on the game. I guess i can try limiting the output from the PS3 to 720p and see what it looks like.

Tell your PS3 to output 1080i. If it's a hitachi CRT RPTV that is what you want (you said it was huge, that's what you have). Make sure you set your PS3 to component output at 1080i in the blu-ray settings and also your game settings.

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Blurry
Actually, I read somewhere that the actual resolution when playing Bluray over non-protected cables (such as Component) has a max output resolution of 960x540, which is exactly 1/4th of 1080p. It's still sharper than DVD, but not by much.

Only with HDMI (or HDCP DVI -> HDMI) can you achieve 720p/1080i/1080p.

Bullshit. Look at the OP's claim of "grainy". That means he's got resolution he's not used to and the "grainy" he is seeing is most likely a case of seeing HD and the source.

I had my PS3 hooked up with component and this is complete nonsense.

-edit-
Even ran my resolution patterns on blu-ray through component, it's a setting problem on the PS3.
 

shempf

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Most of the 1080i are pre-1080P models....

I think it'd help if we knew what tv he was using......way to much speculation/guessing.

"up to 1080" usually means it can accept the input, which also means it's native res. is lower.
 

Spineshank

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I think the TV is the issue. I had a 52" Hitachi RPTV that did 1080i and i was not impressed by the HD quality of it at all. In fact i sold it for that specific reason. Now i have a projector but dont have a BD player.