Blu-Ray internal drive for HTPC

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I was noticing that NewEgg was selling an internal Blu-Ray drive for sub $200 and it got me thinking. Would it be possible to install this into a HTPC and playback Blu-Ray movies over a HDTV? Is there anything else required to play back Blu-Ray movies over a HTPC? Codecs? Software? Video card (HDCP)? I'm looking to upgrade my HTPC and was wondering what is the minimum required for Blu-Ray playback.

Thanks in advance.
 

Genx87

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I would think you will need a decoder of some type. No idea what though hehe. Maybe the player comes with a decoder?
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: bigboxes
I was noticing that NewEgg was selling an internal Blu-Ray drive for sub $200 and it got me thinking. Would it be possible to install this into a HTPC and playback Blu-Ray movies over a HDTV? Is there anything else required to play back Blu-Ray movies over a HTPC? Codecs? Software? Video card (HDCP)? I'm looking to upgrade my HTPC and was wondering what is the minimum required for Blu-Ray playback.

Thanks in advance.

CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra

The ""Lite-On"" player sez:

The DH-4O1S BD-ROM retail pack comes with an extra silver bezel to match some computers, and a SATA cable for easy connection. Also included in the package is the latest Cyberlink Power DVD software for playback of Blu-ray disc media, DVD, or CD multi-media content.

http://us.liteonit.com/us/press/odd/bdrom/111307.htm

edit: I forgot to mention that past OEM versions of PDVD were sometimes "limited" - i.e., you have to purchase an upgrade to play 5.1 audio, etc ...

don't know if that is the case with this version ...
 

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Thanks for the quick responses guys! Yeah, I'm just in the research phase. Probably in the next couple of months I will make a decision on which direction to go. I just want to make an informed decision. :)
 

Slick5150

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You'd need a halfway decent video card that can offload some of the work from the CPU. Otherwise, you're going to have some seriously laggy playback.

The GeForce 8500 series is probably the best bargain for that.

 

Quasmo

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If I was going to get one, it'd be the LG Bluray / HD DVD drive. Plays both. It's about $250
 

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Now, would you need PowerDVD or is there just a codec that would work with any player? Also, I assume any video card with a DVI output and HDCP compliant would output HD. Or is there other cards out there preferable for such a application?
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: bigboxes
Now, would you need PowerDVD or is there just a codec that would work with any player? Also, I assume any video card with a DVI output and HDCP compliant would output HD. Or is there other cards out there preferable for such a application?

The ATI 2600/2400 or nVidia 8600/8500 cards each will substantially remove vc1/h264 HDDVD/BluRay decoding off the cpu ...

PDVD codecs just work ...

""Technically"" you need an HDCP 'protected media pathway': OS, Vid card, monitir ...

however, I do not believe that the AACS keys have yet to be enabled in any media - meaning that your HDCP 'protected media pathway' is not necessary today ...

The current AACS key system has been hacked and may be broken with software that can be downloaded from here
 

chizow

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Yep, you'll need a full HDCP solution starting from the player. There's some work arounds that allow you to output over analog VGA but from what I read this fix is short-term and may not be supported for newer titles. But you'll need:

1) Blu-Ray/HD-DVD drive
2a) HDCP video card, preferably one that offloads 100% decoding to the GPU (HD2400 or better with UVD or G84 or G9X-based cards with Pure Video HD)
2b) A very powerful CPU if you have an older HDCP GPU with partial hardware acceleration
3) HDCP LCD monitor or TV
4) Software HD player (PowerDVD Ultra, WinDVD 7, maybe some of the others like AnyDVD or various free ones)

Typically newer/high-end rigs will have the necessary hardware on the video side, the sound side is a bit more complex. In order to get the highest quality sound for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, you'll need sound to be carried over HDMI as there isn't enough bandwidth to carry uncompressed multi-channel audio over toslink/coax. If your receiver doesn't support TrueHD or DTS-MA, then s/pdif toslink/coax passthrough are fine and you'll get 1.5Kbps max DDPlus, DTS-EX etc.

Problem is, most sound cards don't have HDMI (not sure if they ever will), but video cards are starting to include them. The ATI cards have started putting HDMI on their parts and they're also supposed to carry the audio stream as well. I know the HDMI controller on the ATI cards is recognized as an audio device, but I'm not sure how well this works in practice. Again, not a big deal if you don't have a receiver that supports the higher-end audio.

You can also use your sound card to decode and output via analog if your card supports DD/DTS decoding, but then you'll also need your software DVD player to support multi-channel output. Unfortunately, the OEM versions of the included software DVD players typically do NOT include multi-channel sound formats and require you to purchase or upgrade.

Sounds complicated but isn't too bad if you have some experience with HTPC set-ups. As for the application, I recently purchased the LG combo drive and its been great so far. Plays both formats flawlessly although there is a problem with newer Blu-Ray discs where the menus aren't functional in PowerDVD. Cyberlink is aware of the problem and is working on a fix.

There's also various remote control devices you can use in order to get some remote control functionality out of your HTPC. I currently use my X-Fi's front panel and remote and it works pretty well, although I'm sure something like Logitech's Air Mouse or DiNovo with removable Numpad remote would work even better since they're programmable. A Harmony might even work if you already have some kind of PC IR receiver.

Highly recommend going this route for anyone who has most of the HDCP components required and wants a cheap alternative to getting into the HD scene. IQ in movies is simply incredible compared to SD and well worth it.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Or get anyDVD HD.

Yeah, but thanks to Blu-ray and their BD+ you are going to have to wait several weeks to watch a BD+ title. I'm pretty sure they still have to crack each title individually. HD DVD didn't have this problem.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: montypythizzle
Or get anyDVD HD.

Yeah, but thanks to Blu-ray and their BD+ you are going to have to wait several weeks to watch a BD+ title. I'm pretty sure they still have to crack each title individually. HD DVD didn't have this problem.

Truth. Quite annoying.