Bloomberg mentioned that one person died because...

Wduaqnug

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he was digging his buried car in the bronx, he forgot ( i would as well) to clean exaust pipe, he died while warming up the car with windows closed
 

tcsenter

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I find this doubtful, its likely there were other contributing causes, such as a heart attack after shoveling his car out or something. That or he had one hellacious exhaust leak.

Think about it: engine is running, products of combustion - VERY HOT. It would melt any snow inside his exhaust pipes right fast if not blow the snow right out. He would have to have a solid block of ice inside his exhaust pipe, or as I mentioned, one hell of an exhaust leak.
 

Wduaqnug

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if you dont believe me see if you can find mayors briefing transcript, this was on ny1 and cbs at around 11am, it happened to a man in the bronx
 

MomAndSkoorbaby

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Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
he was digging his buried car in the bronx, he forgot ( i would as well) to clean exaust pipe, he died while warming up the car with windows closed

Unfortunately, that does happen. At home, they often had warnings on TV when we got big storms about sitting in your car while running and stuck in snow drifts or something...carbon monoxide.
 

tcsenter

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Unfortunately, that does happen. At home, they often had warnings on TV when we got big storms about sitting in your car while running and stuck in snow drifts or something...carbon monoxide.
Ah, yeah I guess I could see that happening, if there was a large snow bank or drift covering the entire rear of the vehicle.

I was thinking he had cleared the snow from around his car but there was snow or ice in the tail pipe. lol!

Why in the hell would a person NOT clear the snow from around the rear of the vehicle - especially around the exhaust pipe? That's just another Darwin Award Candidate.
 

Pepsi90919

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i find a connection between:

a) plugging the exhaust pipe with snow;

and

b1) the car will not run;

or

b2) the engine running will blow the snow out of the pipe




i don't find the connection between:


a) plugging the exhaust pipe with snow;

and

b) car manages to run but somehow billows exhaust fumes through the passenger compartment, which by the way contains no exhaust components :confused:
 

Sepen

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Originally posted by: notfred
the car wouldn't run w/ the exhaust pipes plugged.

Huh, try touching an exhaust even after the car has run for 2 minutes. It would melt the snow almost immediately.


 

Wduaqnug

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there is nothing to talk about, guy already dad, this should be warning that it can happen
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
there is nothing to talk about, guy already dad, this should be warning that it can happen

yes yes if you dont want to be a dad dont sit in a car with the engine running!:p
 

Azraele

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Saw a blurb on this on the news last night. They cautioned people to clear snow from the exhaust pipe.
 

rh71

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This happens every year. People just need to keep spreading the word to check your tailpipes before starting your car.

I drove with my window slightly cracked open this morning.
 

Jittles

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Unfortunately, that does happen. At home, they often had warnings on TV when we got big storms about sitting in your car while running and stuck in snow drifts or something...carbon monoxide.
Ah, yeah I guess I could see that happening, if there was a large snow bank or drift covering the entire rear of the vehicle.

I was thinking he had cleared the snow from around his car but there was snow or ice in the tail pipe. lol!

Why in the hell would a person NOT clear the snow from around the rear of the vehicle - especially around the exhaust pipe? That's just another Darwin Award Candidate.

I sure as hell don't clear the snow behind my vehicle if I am pulling out forward. If I am backing out yes, but if I'm not driving through the snow behind me, why should I waste time and energy clearing it? I would even go so far as to say if there was snow on the sides of my car and I had to back out, I would only clear the snow behind my car and not on the side(where my exhaust happens to go).

I don't know how this happened but I can sure see why it might happen.
 

Ynog

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Actually I was cleaning out my car this morning and the back of the car was covered with snow.
And while it was warming up the exhaust was blocked. well not blocked more of snow was
around the back site of the car. So the exhaust was coming out and doinga good job
melting the snow. However when I got into my car to move it forward I could
tell the car was full of exhaust fumes. Which is why I moved it forward and
continued to clean it off. When I looked back to the spot where the exhaust pipe
was there was a huge melted spot the size of a basketball. However there was a done
of snow there. so the exhaust wasn't venting properly.

However within 5 mins of being moved forward, inside didn't smell of fumes anymore.
Just ventalation.

now if a guy was sitting in his car like that, he is just as stupid as someone who starts their
car in a garage and sits in it.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Sepen
Originally posted by: notfred
the car wouldn't run w/ the exhaust pipes plugged.

Huh, try touching an exhaust even after the car has run for 2 minutes. It would melt the snow almost immediately.

no it wouldn't. the car would run for 10 seconds or less before the backpressure would make the car stall or blow off part of the exaust or blow the snow out. I had an autoteacher in high school who was trying to demonstrate how this worked by having us diagnose a car with a plugged exaust. he plugged it with a gym towel. the car would run (a caddy with a northstar engine) for a few seconds then cut off. when we were diagnosing it we had it running in one of these short times, and the pressure blew the header off the rest of the exaust.
 

tcsenter

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I sure as hell don't clear the snow behind my vehicle if I am pulling out forward. If I am backing out yes, but if I'm not driving through the snow behind me, why should I waste time and energy clearing it? I would even go so far as to say if there was snow on the sides of my car and I had to back out, I would only clear the snow behind my car and not on the side(where my exhaust happens to go).
I guess laziness would be a factor in all of this. Here's my snow clearing ritual:

Cut a swath to the door, brush snow off door and window, including that 'overhang' from the roof. Jump in, close the door really hard in hopes of creating a mini-avalanche around the rest of the vehicle; every bit helps. Start engine, rev it up a little, crank heater/defroster on full. Get out of vehicle, you can hear whether the tail pipe is obstructed by the extra back-pressure, throatiness, or 'ping' in the exhaust note. If tail pipe is obstructed, run around and brush snow away from tail pipe.

Start brushing snow away from high to low; roof, support pillars, driver and passenger windows, windshield, free up wipers and clear solvent nozzle, horizontal sides of the roof and trunk lid, mirrors, then all the way around the car, including the headlights and turn signals. If I wasn't going to back up, I may not clear snow completely away from the rear side of the vehicle, but I would certainly go back there in any event to clear off the rear window, brake lights, and license plate.

And I'm always doing this with no hat, no gloves, a light jacket, and tennis shoes. I don't own a hat or pair of gloves. :D

There was a guy on the news last night shoveling snow in shorts. I've done that, too.
 

T2T III

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I'm sure this vehicle had some other exhaust leaks in the system. Being backed up into the snow just meant that the fumes would be required to exit through one of the other leaking areas - which were those that probably put the fumes into the car.