Bloomberg Bans Food Donations.

pcgeek11

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Is New York turning into California? I read about this and thought it was crazy. Which would you prefer No food or food with a little salt.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/bloomberg-bans-food-donat_n_1367542.html

In a move that combines the mayor's affinity for overbearing health regulations with his controversial stance on homeless shelters already under fire from advocacy groups and City Council members, a new rule barring food donations to shelters is raising even more concern.

CBS reports on the bizarre rule that turns away food, perhaps the most needed item for any shelter, because according to health officials, it's impossible to gauge the items' salt, fiber, and other nutritional stats.

When asked about the contradictory stipulation, Bloomberg huffed, "For the things that we run because of all sorts of safety reasons, we just have a policy it is my understanding of not taking donations."

Unfortunately, news of the rule is just another day in Bloomberg's "nanny-state." The mayor has been repeatedly criticized for his health initiatives, with many believing his well-intentioned moves to improve New Yorkers' health ultimately infringe upon basic rights.
 

fskimospy

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Your about 20 years behind the times.

Whether its to the left or right, both states are led by people who are screwed up in the head.

Really. Having lived in both states myself as well as a bunch of other places around the country I feel like I have a pretty good idea of how they compare.

I'd be quite interested to hear how you think the leadership of California and New York is comprised of the mentally ill.
 

Texashiker

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I'd be quite interested to hear how you think the leadership of California and New York is comprised of the mentally ill.

Considering the arcane gun laws of both states, crime, gangs, california going bankrupt while providing benefits for illegal immigrants, politically correct everything in both states,,,,.

Back in the 1990s, didn't New Orleans and New York go back and forth for the murder capital of the US?
 

fskimospy

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Considering the arcane gun laws of both states, crime, gangs, california going bankrupt while providing benefits for illegal immigrants, politically correct everything in both states,,,,.

Back in the 1990s, didn't New Orleans and New York go back and forth for the murder capital of the US?

New York City has one of the lowest crime rates of any large city in the United States, and has for a number of years now. Notably, it has a lower crime rate than any major city in Texas.


http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_crime_rate_2010-2011_hightolow.pdf

As states go, California is exactly one ranking worse than Texas and New York is 20 rankings higher... again one of the safest states.

http://os.cqpress.com/rankings/2010/Crime_State_Rankings_2010.pdf

All that despite the 'arcane gun laws, crime, gangs, etc'. Maybe Texans should come to New York so we can teach you guys a few things about fighting crime.

California's budget has been discussed to death. Illegal immigrants aren't the cause.

As for 'politically correct everything', while I don't even know exactly what that means I can guarantee you that you will see far more things that will push the envelope of what people think is acceptable in either California or NYC than you will in Texas, with the possible exception of Austin.

So if CA and NY are run by mental patients, what's Texas' excuse?
 

Texashiker

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New York City has one of the lowest crime rates of any large city in the United States, and has for a number of years now.

"A number of years" does not make up for 3 decades of spiraling murder rates.

800px-NYC_murders.PNG


500 murders are year is nothing to be proud about.

Houston the other hand had around had about 260 - 300 murders a year for the last decade, about 1/2 of new yorks.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Houston-Texas.html

Murders in 2009:

New York city - around 500
Houston - around 287
 
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Capt Caveman

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New York City has one of the lowest crime rates of any large city in the United States, and has for a number of years now. Notably, it has a lower crime rate than any major city in Texas.


http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_crime_rate_2010-2011_hightolow.pdf

As states go, California is exactly one ranking worse than Texas and New York is 20 rankings higher... again one of the safest states.

http://os.cqpress.com/rankings/2010/Crime_State_Rankings_2010.pdf

All that despite the 'arcane gun laws, crime, gangs, etc'. Maybe Texans should come to New York so we can teach you guys a few things about fighting crime.

California's budget has been discussed to death. Illegal immigrants aren't the cause.

As for 'politically correct everything', while I don't even know exactly what that means I can guarantee you that you will see far more things that will push the envelope of what people think is acceptable in either California or NYC than you will in Texas, with the possible exception of Austin.

So if CA and NY are run by mental patients, what's Texas' excuse?

Dude, don't throw stats at the mentally ill, that's not fair. Texas has Ron Paul. Nuff said.
 

fskimospy

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"A number of years" does not make up for 3 decades of spiraling murder rates.

800px-NYC_murders.PNG


500 murders are year is nothing to be proud about.

Why? If your point is 'New York sucks because it had a high murder rate 3 decades ago', all I can ask you is if we're living in 1990 or 2012.

If you think 500 murders a year is nothing to be proud about that's true, but NYC has a huge population. In contrast, cities like Dallas have murder rates more than double NYC's, and Houston isn't far behind Dallas. Simply put, NYC is a far safer city than the major ones in Texas.

So like I asked you before, if the leadership in NY is nuts what's Texas' excuse?
 

fskimospy

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"A number of years" does not make up for 3 decades of spiraling murder rates.

500 murders are year is nothing to be proud about.

Houston the other hand had around had about 260 - 300 murders a year for the last decade, about 1/2 of new yorks.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Houston-Texas.html

Murders in 2009:

New York city - around 500
Houston - around 287

Population of New York City in 2009: ~8 million
Population of Houston in 2009: ~2 million.

Murders in NYC in 2009 ~500
Murders in Houston in 2009 ~287

Ratio of murders to population in NYC in 2009 (per 100,000): ~6.25
Ratio of murders to population in Houston in 2009 (per 100,000) ~14.35

Lol Texas.
 

Texashiker

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If you think 500 murders a year is nothing to be proud about that's true, but NYC has a huge population. In contrast, cities like Dallas have murder rates more than double NYC's, and Houston isn't far behind Dallas. Simply put, NYC is a far safer city than the major ones in Texas.

I will take my chances in Texas any day over new york.

At least we can donate food to people who need it.
 

fskimospy

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I will take my chances in Texas any day over new york.

At least we can donate food to people who need it.

You're welcome to live wherever you'd like.

My only point in all this was to show you that your criteria for thinking poorly of California and New York could use some work because by your own measures your own state of Texas is either equivalent in the case of California or considerably inferior as compared to New York.
 

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Ratio of murders to population in NYC in 2009 (per 100,000): ~6.25
Ratio of murders to population in Houston in 2009 (per 100,000) ~14.35

Lol Texas.

I wonder how many of the murders in Houston are committed by illegal immigrants? Not that it makes any real difference, but the demographics between houston and new york city are a little different. It seems that texas welcomes anyone that can sneak across the border.


With a 32% obesity rate, who are those people exactly?

You have not experienced a summer in southeast Texas have you? If the heat does not suck the life out of you, the mosquitoes will.
 

fskimospy

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With a 32% obesity rate, who are those people exactly?

California and New York both rank in considerably lower than Texas in obesity rates as well. On a side note I always remember being shocked when I would leave San Diego and go somewhere else. I had forgotten just how fat America is.
 

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You have not experienced a summer in southeast Texas have you? If the heat does not suck the life out of you, the mosquitoes will.

I have. If anything I wouldn't want to be carrying around all that extra insulation.
 

fskimospy

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I wonder how many of the murders in Houston are committed by illegal immigrants? Not that it makes any real difference, but the demographics between houston and new york city are a little different. It seems that texas welcomes anyone that can sneak across the border.

New York City has one of the largest concentrations of illegal immigrants in the US. I do like how you're trying to shift the blame though. Does that now mean that due to the fact that California has such a huge immigrant population that their comparable crime rate to Texas is no longer due to insane leadership, but simple demographics?
 

Texashiker

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California and New York both rank in considerably lower than Texas in obesity rates as well. On a side note I always remember being shocked when I would leave San Diego and go somewhere else. I had forgotten just how fat America is.

A couple of years ago my wife and I visited my wifes sister in LA for a week. The weather was so nice, nighttime lows in the 60s, daytime highs in the uppers 70s and low 80s, and this was in June.

As soon as we stepped off the plane in Houston, the air was so hot it felt like we were in an oven.

In July and August you have to limit all of your outdoor activates because of the heat.

If you look at obesity rates, the majority of states with the lowest rates have the nicest weather.


New York City has one of the largest concentrations of illegal immigrants in the US. I do like how you're trying to shift the blame though. Does that now mean that due to the fact that California has such a huge immigrant population that their comparable crime rate to Texas is no longer due to insane leadership, but simple demographics?

Tourist should not be considered illegal immigrants.

California is a screwed up state, it does not matter how you look at it.
 
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fskimospy

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A couple of years ago my wife and I visited my wifes sister in LA for a week. The weather was so nice, nighttime lows in the 60s, daytime highs in the uppers 70s and low 80s, and this was in June.

As soon as we stepped off the plane in Houston, the air was so hot it felt like we were in an oven.

In July and August you have to limit all of your outdoor activates because of the heat.

If you look at obesity rates, the majority of states with the lowest rates have the nicest weather.

Trust me, I know how SoCal weather is. New York State does not have appreciably more outside-y type days than Texas in my opinion, yet its obesity rate is much lower.

Tourist should not be considered illegal immigrants.

California is a screwed up state, it does not matter how you look at it.

They aren't considered illegal immigrants. As for a fact free declaration, uhmm, ok.
 

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Over the last twenty-five years, we have eliminated a Fourth Amendment here in NY. So it really helps to keep crime down and eliminate red tape.

Probable cause usually means guilty of being latino or black, or eating fat, sugar, or salt. Harassing these cretins 24/7 usually keeps them off the streets.