Blocking cell phone reception in a Movie theatre.

HOOfan 1

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I was discussing this with a co-worker, as we work in a research library with a no cell phone use policy and constantly have to ask people to leave if they want to use their cell phone. So I told him about threatres asking the FCC about using jammers and being shot down. Then I suggested using a Faraday cage. He is not tech savy and I had to explain that the cage would have to have gaps smaller than the wave length of the cell phone EM waves, and debating the cost effectivness of this.



So I decided to google "movie theatre cell phone faraday cage" and I came upon a hotly contested anandtech thread from 2006. Rather than resurrect that, I figured I would start a new one.

Let us pretend for a moment that threatres didn't have to charge $4 for 12 ounces of soda, or $5.50 for popcorn that it only took them $0.50 to buy and pop, just to turn a profit and stay afloat.

beginning of ramble...skip down to the next bolded line if you are prone to post TL;DR


The old thread debated emergency personnel (doctors etc.) and just plain emergency situations. Of course, the rebuttals which I agree with, was that those people shouldn't go into a theatre when no call, or should find alternate means of being contacted.

I've found recently that phones lighting up over and over from teens text messaging is nearly as annoying as phones ringing and people actually answering them.

Anyone who has worked any sort of public services job before will know that
1) People don't read signs
or
2) Ignore signs that they have read, or at some points reading what they want to read, wether the sign says it or not.

There are too many inconsiderate people in the world, for messages before the movie asking for cell phones to be silenced to actually work. Those messages only remind the responsible people that they need to turn off their cell phone.

Attention lacking people begin here...BTW #1 and #2 above apply to you ;)

Most theatres I go to now have a NO GUNS sign at the door. Those CCW permit holders who wish can choose to leave the gun in their car or not patronize the theatre.

The same can and SHOULD be done for threatres using a Farady cage to block cell phone EM radiaton. Those who cannot do without their cell phone for the length of a movie can do as the CCW holders above must do.

OR

For new and popular movies, theatres could have individual auditoriums which block cell phone use, and auditoriums which do not block signals. This would act more like the now fading tradition of Non-smoking areas in restaurants. While cell phone use is still discouraged in the non-blocked auditorium, those who choose to view a movie there will have to deal with the occasional distraction.

For older movies the could alternate which auditorium they show them in from week to week.

In my area most of the 15+ theatres are owned by Regal. So entire theatres could be blocked or not (possibly a choice that would require extensive rennovation or need to be made before construction)
 

xanis

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I hardly ever go to the movies, but I'd be perfectly okay with not getting any cell reception in the theaters. If there's an emergency someone can run outside of the theater and call for help.
 

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Or how about the theatre just has a policy if you are caught using your cell phone and it's disruptive you get booted with no refund. It's free and maintenance proof technology.

I don't agree about the "if you go to a theatre then you shouldn't need a phone".

Ok. So what if I have a date night out with my wife and we leave our kid with a babysitter and the child has a major allergic reaction, accident, ect and they need to reach me ASAP? Should that be blocked too?

Common sense and common courtesy are all that are needed. Turn your ringer off and keep it closed unless something emergent happens and you need to leave the auditorum. If you can't follow those rules then you should be escorted to the door.
 

spidey07

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I thought I read somewhere about some special paint that can be used? I don't see why they couldn't use a jammer, it's their property. Really the easiest way would be for the theater to have a big sign saying you will be escorted out of the property (no refunds) if you use your phone while the movie is showing. And mean it kicking every single person that uses their phone. After a while the problem will take care of itself.
 

NuclearNed

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A while back I read that some company had developed a paint that was impregnated with some (probably metallic) material; rooms painted with this paint were effectively turned into large Faraday cages. Seems like a simple solution for movie theaters.
 

Wyndru

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This comes up from time to time at the school I work at. Some teachers want a call reception jammer installed so they can keep the attention of the kids, but parents don't so they can reach their kids in an emergency. One of our teachers brought in a short distance jammer, and got in trouble for it.

To me it's simple, what did people do before cell phones? Parents called the office, the office called the room that the kid was in. It's a no-brainer for schools.

Movie theaters are a little different because it's one of those places that you could go to and no one would know where you were to reach you. The same idea though, before cell phones what did people do?

I would be ok with it personally.
 

Pardus

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Most theatres I go to now have a NO GUNS sign at the door. )

never seen no gun signs at the door? are you sure these are movie theaters?

banning cell phones in the movie theaters will only happen at the local city/state level only if it escalates beyond a nuisance where someone gets stabbed or shot over it. people will argue what if xyz can't reach me in case of a emergency and so on...

i suggest you write your local city/state officials and present your ideas to them if the use of cell phones bothers you that much.

most people prefer to watch movies at home, then to deal with over priced movie theaters, sticky floors, bed bugs, parking and so on.
 

HOOfan 1

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I don't agree about the "if you go to a theatre then you shouldn't need a phone".

Ok. So what if I have a date night out with my wife and we leave our kid with a babysitter and the child has a major allergic reaction, accident, ect and they need to reach me ASAP? Should that be blocked too?

Well hopefully the sitter knows how to dial 911.
You can tell the sitter the number of the theatre you are in, the name of the movie you are seeing, and before you enter the theatre, the theatre number you are in. Then an usher can come get you. (of course this came up in the 5 year old thread, what did people do before cell phones)

Simpler yet, with my options above (whether they are economically viable or not) you just choose to go to the theatre which does not block your signal.

The problem is not those who have legitimate emergencies, the problem is with inconsiderate adults and very often teens who would rather text than watch the movie. It is hard to go to the movie any more that does not have teens texting or cell phones ringing. I am sure it is tough for theatres to clean that mess up, especially when they feel like they cannot step on too many toes for customer service reasons.

My above proposal at least majorly cuts down on customer service issues over this.
 
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shortylickens

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I heard they do that in some places in Asia.

Would be totally fine with it. Even better if the really obnoxious assholes stop going to the movies entirely. Life would be so sweet.
 

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Well hopefully the sitter know show to dial 911. You can tell the sitter the number of the theatre you are in, the name of the movie you are seeing, and before you enter the theatre, the theatre number you are in. Then an usher can come get you. (of course this came up in the 5 year old thread, what did people do before cell phones) Simpler yet, with my options above (whether they are economically viable or not) you just choose to go to the theatre which does not block your signal.

Or you could just start showing disrespectful people the door and the problem fixes itself. But no, we need to take the passive agressive, high tech approach to fix things that could be fixed with a simple "Hey, the movies starting, please turn that off".
 

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I thought I read somewhere about some special paint that can be used? I don't see why they couldn't use a jammer, it's their property. Really the easiest way would be for the theater to have a big sign saying you will be escorted out of the property (no refunds) if you use your phone while the movie is showing. And mean it kicking every single person that uses their phone. After a while the problem will take care of itself.
There's no way to restrict a jamming signal to just their own property unless they build a Faraday cage around the building, in which case they don't need the jammer...
 
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have a policy for disruptive patrons, and enforce it. thats it, problem solved, and its not limited to just people using phones.

stop trying to regulate every little individual stupid ass thing people can and will do. its a waste of time and money (which will get passed down to the consumer). there are many many legitimate reasons people might need to be contacted during a movie. if they show discretion and courtesy just let it be. heres another case of penalize everyone because a few people are morons.
 

Leros

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Or how about the theatre just has a policy if you are caught using your cell phone and it's disruptive you get booted with no refund. It's free and maintenance proof technology.

Yup. Some of the theaters here have a no tolerance policy. No talking, no cell phones. If somebody is annoying you, raise your hand and an usher will come over to see what the problem is. People generally get one warning, but then they're kicked out. I've never seen anyone be annoying at this theater before. I love it :)
 

AMDZen

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I hardly ever go to the movies, but I'd be perfectly okay with not getting any cell reception in the theaters. If there's an emergency someone can run outside of the theater and call for help.

What if the emergency is on the other side? Like your dad is calling you because your mom is on the way to the hospital?

I always leave my phone on vibrate, and its not that hard. If you get a call in the movie that you feel you need to take, you step outside the theatre and take it. Not rocket science

Or how about the theatre just has a policy if you are caught using your cell phone and it's disruptive you get booted with no refund. It's free and maintenance proof technology.

I don't agree about the "if you go to a theatre then you shouldn't need a phone".

Ok. So what if I have a date night out with my wife and we leave our kid with a babysitter and the child has a major allergic reaction, accident, ect and they need to reach me ASAP? Should that be blocked too?

Common sense and common courtesy are all that are needed. Turn your ringer off and keep it closed unless something emergent happens and you need to leave the auditorum. If you can't follow those rules then you should be escorted to the door.

I guess I could have just quoted your response.
 

spidey07

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There's no way to restrict a jamming signal to just their own property unless they build a Faraday cage around the building, in which case they don't need the jammer...

They could do a lot with antenna design to contain the energy to just the theater. But I could see why the FCC has a problem with it, technically they own the airwaves and just "let" the carriers use the frequencies.
 

spidey07

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What if the emergency is on the other side? Like your dad is calling you because your mom is on the way to the hospital?

I always leave my phone on vibrate, and its not that hard. If you get a call in the movie that you feel you need to take, you step outside the theatre and take it. Not rocket science



I guess I could have just quoted your response.

That's the problem. You have manners and respect for other people. The huge majority of the population does not and it seems to only be getting worse.
 

AMDZen

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That's the problem. You have manners and respect for other people. The huge majority of the population does not and it seems to only be getting worse.

I don't go to the movies very often but I have zero problems.

Around here, you have to know which theatre's are ran by the HS students and what times to go to avoid the HS students entirely.
 

trmiv

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I honestly can't remember really being bothered by cell phones at a movie theater. Loud candy, crying babies, talking toddlers, and adults talking have been far more common. And even that stuff hasn't been much of an issue at the theater I go to. I guess it's just a nice theater (in a very upscale shopping center). There are some in "less desirable" parts of town that I'm sure have issues.
 

KeithP

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The emergency thing is a non-issue. I would think it would be easy enough to have a beeper set up (no sounds, just vibration and maybe a small blinking light) that would be provided by the theater. You give the theater your cell phone, they give you a beeper. Wired transmitters could be placed in the theaters for the beepers. Heck, theaters could even charge extra for it if they like.

If your phone rings, they beep you and you can leave the movie and deal with the call.

As far some of the other ideas, anything that results in people being ask to leave, or escorted out of the theater is pointless. In those cases, the disruption has already happened and the movie experienced ruined.

Personally, I think theaters should be allowed to install the jammers, with clear signs indicating that they are being used. If people don't like that, they are free to spend their money elsewhere. If all theaters end up using the technology, then those people can choose to not go to movies. Seems simple to me.

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I would be fine with any method they wanted to keep people from using cell phones in theaters. The easiest being if you use your phone we will kick you out with no refund. As Spidey said. It will take care of itself in short order.
 

HOOfan 1

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Look at all these confrontational people. Passive aggressive is the better way.

Indeed.

When someone is booted out of the library I work in, it usually takes 2 or 3 guards and teh person yells and complains the entire way out the door.

I would say depending on the section the the library you are in, at least 40% of requests for patrons to cease disruptive behavior results in being ignored or an increase in disruptive behavior and agressive confrontation by the patron. Luckily as a government agency, individual customer service is not our main concern. Overall experience of all visitors is our concern and we will boot the person and ban them for life.