Blockbuster Follows Netflix, Again

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By Rick Aristotle Munarriz (TMFBreakerRick)
February 15, 2006

Earlier this week, I looked at the throttling going on at Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX). Now that the popular DVD-by-mail company is handicapping hyperactive accounts with slower delivery times and poorer new-release availability, I concluded that it would be a win-win scenario if the negative publicity cost it only the actively traded accounts.

"If you're blazing through 20 flicks a month on Netflix, you'll do it a favor by going to Blockbuster (NYSE: BBI) and knocking that company one step closer to bankruptcy," I wrote at the time.

Because of postage costs, revenue-sharing deals, and the costs to acquire DVDs, Netflix is more than likely losing money on you if your monthly disc-viewing habits go into the double digits.

Well, it turns out that Blockbuster doesn't want to keep the busy beavers, either. It is now proclaiming its throttling ways as well on its terms and conditions page. Blockbuster is revealing that it takes the rental volume of its subscribers into account during the allocation process.

I got a bit of email after Monday's story from users who felt cheated by the throttling at Netflix. While I can't say I blame them, given the nature of the "unlimited rentals" pitched in the company's marketing strategy, uncapped rentals were a time bomb waiting to go off.

Subscribers who aren't going through more than a couple of discs a month -- the high-margin accounts -- may not see the value proposition to stick around. The hyperactive users see more value in the uncapped approach and stay.

The only shame here is that Netflix -- and now Blockbuster -- didn't see this coming sooner. They may eventually take the easy way out and limit monthly rentals, the way Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN) does in the United Kingdom, but a little visibility could have helped them prepare for this. How so? Well, both companies have been slow in taking marketing advantage of their inviting audiences. Netflix, for example, could probably be helping to subsidize some of its high-traffic overhead if it did more than just occasionally print some ads on the DVD mailer. Everything from marketing materials to sample discs to product samples can be feasibly packaged. The companies have also been slow to embrace interactive marketing. There is so much real estate on their sites ripe for third-party sponsorship, yet the companies have chosen to leave that opportunity on the table.

Online ads and beefed-up product-placement deals would have at least covered some of the overhead of the hyperactive subscribers. It wouldn't have been enough, but it would have been a good place to start.

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Wingznut

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Blockbuster has been servicing me for months... NEVER have I even suspected throttling, since my movies arrive so quickly.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Blockbuster has been servicing me for months... NEVER have I even suspected throttling, since my movies arrive so quickly.

That porn star chose a good name
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Blockbuster has been servicing me for months... NEVER have I even suspected throttling, since my movies arrive so quickly.

That porn star chose a good name

Good to see i wasn't the only one who found his choice of words humorous.
 

Pegun

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We just go down the blockbuster and get the two movies a day pass...
 

FoBoT

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the wife uses the netflix

as long as we get 10 discs a month its a bargain. occasionally we go 1-2 weeks before watching/returning them
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
the wife uses the netflix

as long as we get 10 discs a month its a bargain. occasionally we go 1-2 weeks before watching/returning them

She's missing out on Blockbuster servicing her!
 

jonny13

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I had both services for about 4 months and had netflix for about 2 years before I started both. I finally quit Netflix because I was getting about 6-9 movies less a month. So, now I just have blockbuster and don't have a single issue. Plus, since they still receive/ship movies out on Saturday, I get even more than I would at netflix without the trottle.
 

TallBill

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Usually we'll go through 9 discs a month with netflix. Some months we dont watch many and only go through 4-5. Hell, I had Citizen Kane for 6 weeks before I mustered up the courage to watch it.
 

PokerGuy

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I have no problem with them throttling, as long as they don't falsely advertise their product as "unlimited rentals". If they are up front about it, the consumer can decide if their service is worth it.

Bottom line, if all you do is rent 2 or 3 flicks per month, then something like netflix doesn't appear to be a good deal --- you could get it cheaper going to a local rental place, and you'd get it right away, no waiting for the mail. If you want to watch 5-8 per month, it would be a good deal. More than that, and you get throttled, and thus it becomes a bad deal again.
 

cw42

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I get throttled with Blockbuster. I was only a member for about two months. The first few weeks I would get three at a time. Then after I send all three of my movies back at the same time, the next time I get movies i'll only get TWO, then ONE the next day. This has happen consistently despite me sending all three back at the same time. Bye bye Blockbuster, i'm done.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I have no problem with them throttling, as long as they don't falsely advertise their product as "unlimited rentals". If they are up front about it, the consumer can decide if their service is worth it.

Bottom line, if all you do is rent 2 or 3 flicks per month, then something like netflix doesn't appear to be a good deal --- you could get it cheaper going to a local rental place, and you'd get it right away, no waiting for the mail. If you want to watch 5-8 per month, it would be a good deal. More than that, and you get throttled, and thus it becomes a bad deal again.

Even if I only get like 3-4 movies a month, its a good deal to me. I dont have to get my lazy ass up and drive through traffic and deal with people only to find my movie completely rented out.

Besides, its only $18 a month. I pay more for vonage and use it less.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Pegun
We just go down the blockbuster and get the two movies a day pass...

It's not two a day, it's two at a time..


Exactly, and it is the best deal if you aren't too lazy to actually get off your fat ass and go to the store. I have 2 Blockbuster stores that I can stop at on my way to or from the house so it makes much more sense to me to use this service. The big plus to me is I can have my movie the minute I want to watch it like when friends or family suggest we watch a certain movie....right then. The whole DVD rental through mail business model doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me considering postal charges, plus I don't want to wait when I decide I want to watch a movie.
 

lytalbayre

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I wonder do they make exceptions for those who are on the more expensive plans. I get 5 at a time and usually go through 5 a week... overall I generally get about 20 a month... which isn't too bad.
 

torpid

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I don't use netflix because it's a good deal. I use it because blockbuster doesn't carry any movies beyond new releases, and even then not all of them. They don't even have bubble, for example.

I thought about making the switch to b'buster because it would be a much better value with the new free in-store rental per week thing. But I got put off by the fact that they don't carry the unrated/nc-17 versions of artistic movies like The Dreamers. I remember all-too-well the horror of watching the opening scenes of Requiem For a Dream and then seeing in big print "Editted Version" or similar.
 
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man I never thought I would say this, but I think blockbuster might be worse then Netflix

I have only had blockbuster since the start of the month and the turnaround time takes forever.

Sent 3 movies out at the same time on Tuesday, it is now friday and they have only recieved 1. And I am in Los Angeles with the distribution center closeby

Netflix I never got new movies, but if i sent them out tuesday, the latest I would have my new ones was Friday

Blockbuster I can get new movies with the in store pickup which is nice, but this turnaround time is killing me
 

us3rnotfound

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Usually we'll go through 9 discs a month with netflix. Some months we dont watch many and only go through 4-5. Hell, I had Citizen Kane for 6 weeks before I mustered up the courage to watch it.

Courage? :confused:
 

codeyf

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Originally posted by: cw42
I get throttled with Blockbuster. I was only a member for about two months. The first few weeks I would get three at a time. Then after I send all three of my movies back at the same time, the next time I get movies i'll only get TWO, then ONE the next day. This has happen consistently despite me sending all three back at the same time. Bye bye Blockbuster, i'm done.

Same here. I just started my 2nd month after my "reactivate for 30 days for $1" deal. For the first 6 weeks or so, I'd send all 3 back, they'd be "received" the next day, and my next selections would go out the same day.

Then, it was like a switch was turned. Now, they don't "receive" them for 2-3 days (I'm mailing from downtown Seattle...TO downtown Seattle). Even when they do, they only get 2 of the 3.

Needless to say, this will be the last month I bother with it. Just need to get a couple other movies (Harry Potter, Prime...) and I'm out.
 

poopaskoopa

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I got throttled by Netflix. It bothers me, but I have 330 movies in the queue, and I guess I don't really care which one of the 330 movies I get next so I stick with those bastards.
 

Conky

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I'm gonna give Blockbuster online a shot.

Netflix has me throttled so bad it's ridiculous... I've had "40 Year Old Virgin" and "Cinderella Man" at the very top of my queue since they were available and what did they send me this last week? Domino and The Recruit.

Plus Netflix has the speed throttled so bad that I might as well be paying for one at a time with the turnaround times. :(

At least with Blockbuster I get the 4 bonus in-store rentals each month. I can't see their online rental thing being any worse than Netflix.
 

Chryso

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The main thing I got with Netflix was old television series that I couldn't find elsewhere.