BLM: In light of everything we know today were their issues valid?

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QueBert

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From Trayvon Martin forward, and Tyesha Miller back in time to the Ambush Murders and the Riverside Three, if you don't understand a BLM movement, I haven't time to explain to you. I don't even have time to offer you first aid.

I live in Riverside, the Tyesha Miller thing was unreal. 3 LEO's with lots of training all decided to fire entire clips after like 20 seconds. I'm surprised the town didn't get burnt to the ground after that. We had peaceful protesting (imagine that) I don't recall any reports of looting or people acting like dipshits.


Right... Because... people that are racist actively walk down the street and are in the locker room with their buds yelling all the time "Boy howdy, I'd love to place my knee on an n**** throat today"

And then the rest of the cops say YEEEEEEE HAWWW that's right!

You have an incredibly narrow mind to have such a warped sense of reality of our society.

Part of a cop's training is to notice shit and be aware of their surroundings. Now in this hypothetical department where 3 cops are bad and 1,000 are good. And I say hypothetical because there's no way in hell a department that big will only only 3 racist cops. But any ways, saying 100% of the good cops know the 3 are bad is probably a big stretch. Saying none of them know is absolutely a lie. The ones who know need to tell the ones who don't know and they can come together to get the bad cops fired, or put in prison. I just don't see bad cops being able to be bad without the good cops noticing. It doesn't have to be as hilariously blatant as your example. But it's going to be pretty obvious to trainer LEO's. The way shitty cops racial profile, good cops should use that same intuition to profile for bad cops. Meaning, every one of their co workers is a potential piece of shit racist and thusly needs to be watched carefully. I mean that's how the racist cops treat black people right?

Racist cops use the "black people are a high % of the crime, so we need to profile them all" Welp, even tho most cops are decent, just like most black people are decent, there are enough shitty cops where the same theory needs to be applied.
 
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Jaskalas

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I'm asking especially for those people who complained about the concept of Black Lives Matter. Why such a group needs to exist and don't all lives matter?

I believe I have stood by their issue as valid, but I have said their branding / messaging falls short. Their two primary cases last decade were frauds, especially Ferguson. But I digress. No-knock home invasions, police brutality, murders... these are issues with broad appeal that do not need to be narrowly defined by racial tension and "us vs them" attitudes. It could more inclusive by finding a way to attract a broader audience.

Though it may be paradoxical, one would imagine anti-government Conservatives would get a kick out of seeing the police state having its teeth filed down. The paradox being they haven't stepped up to tackle this issue. A missed opportunity to help people across party lines. Sad part is America may be too heavily divided to solve issues peacefully. Too many are wantonly seeking violence and think of it as a solution rather than a problem.

The issues Blacks face in America may outlive America in our life time.
 

HomerJS

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I believe I have stood by their issue as valid, but I have said their branding / messaging falls short. Their two primary cases last decade were frauds, especially Ferguson. But I digress. No-knock home invasions, police brutality, murders... these are issues with broad appeal that do not need to be narrowly defined by racial tension and "us vs them" attitudes. It could more inclusive by finding a way to attract a broader audience.

Though it may be paradoxical, one would imagine anti-government Conservatives would get a kick out of seeing the police state having its teeth filed down. The paradox being they haven't stepped up to tackle this issue. A missed opportunity to help people across party lines. Sad part is America may be too heavily divided to solve issues peacefully. Too many are wantonly seeking violence and think of it as a solution rather than a problem.

The issues Blacks face in America may outlive America in our life time.
Michael Brown was flawed to back especially since there is video of him roughing up a store owner earlier that day. What was the other case? You mean TM?
 

QueBert

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Remember, not all violent crimes done by American citizens are committed by black people. But racist cops killing minorities are cops 100% of the time.
 

Ken g6

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Saw a black comedian a couple of years ago (sorry I'm crap with names and I can't remember his) who was in front of a mostly white audience and he described it this way:

"We're not saying that black lives matter more, we're just saying that they matter AS WELL."
This makes me sometimes think that the movement should be named "Black Lives Also Matter!" It makes for a better and less-confusing acronym as well:

BLM makes me think of this:
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But the logo for "Black Lives Also Matter!" could be:
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But maybe it could be confused with saying black lives are also-rans or something. :(
 

skyking

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Michael Brown was flawed to back especially since there is video of him roughing up a store owner earlier that day. What was the other case? You mean TM?
None of that should matter, what matters is the moment they died and how.
 

QueBert

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Michael Brown was flawed to back especially since there is video of him roughing up a store owner earlier that day. What was the other case? You mean TM?

In court a lawyer can't bring up old shit a defendant did, it doesn't matter if dude stole a car 3 months ago if that's not what he's on trial for. Just because a person does some bad things, that doesn't justify them being killed unjustly. Michael Brown pushed a store owner that day, a shitty move on his part. What the cop did to him was infinitely worse.