Blix Skeptical that Iraq has WMDs

[syzygy]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Look at Kay's quote above. Did he say they found WMDs? No. Did he say the found WMD programs? No. He said they found "WMD-related program activities". I know you wish it said more, but it just, flat-out doesn't.

he says he hasn't found wmd, and i never claimed he did. what he does say is the discovered materiel is wmd-related, important equipment
was concealed, critical facilities were sanitized, and other systemic efforts were made to destroy information. a number of biological and chemical
related programs they did come upon were in the employ of the iraqi intelligence services. i can see the humanitarian potential it has in their mittens.

As far as the rest of your moronic comments above, all I can say is bleated like a true, died in the wool Bush apologist.

coming from a frothing saddamite, a wonderful complement indeed.

You embellish Kay's actual comments to make them seem more than they are. For example, "innocent prison laboratory complex we built as a harmless architectural fetish"? WTF? There is nothing about a "prison laboratory complex" that suggests anything related to WMDs unless you have already predetermined that that's what you want it to mean.

from the report:

A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections
were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

your stupidity is rather selectively if you account for 'possibly' but not 'explicitly ordered' - and thats only with the text. this is a prison
laboratory. these two words in combination within ba'ath iraq, under hussein's control, do not constitute an innocuous compound word
form. predetermination is not a worry given all these simple variables. as your boy saddam was a 'bad guy' he cannot be trusted with
honorable motives to develop and oversee a prison lab complex which he desired to keep secret. but, ofcourse, you can trust him.

Are you suggesting there is no other possible use for the labs?

possible ? you mean within a social vacuum ? if we ignore who hussein was, what the ba'ath party was, their long history of internal
terror, what it meant to have a police state build a prison lab complex that it would have liked to keep secret from the world ? hmmm,
lets play bowfinger for a sec and conclude that despite all the above the possibility exists that this secret prison lab complex could have
served as a children's theme park. i mean, we're talking about possibilities, mathematical and such, outside the socio-political context. so,
yes, the possibility this prison lab complex was built by saddam for humanitarian reasons does exist.

The rest of your comments are equally banal. Lots of innuendo and asinine jabs, but no facts. Look at Kay's conclusions. Even he doesn't
claim Iraq resumed WMD programs. Instead, he notes, " Saddam ... had not given up his aspirations and intentions to continue
to acquire weapons of mass destruction." Not actual programs, just aspirations and intentions. The report does NOT say what you claim.

ah, so you fell for the mis-quoting, as predicted. there was more to the quote above. let me help you finish it:

Even those senior officials we have interviewed who claim no direct knowledge of any on-going prohibited activities
readily acknowledge that Saddam intended to resume these programs whenever the external restrictions were removed.
Several of these officials acknowledge receiving inquiries since 2000 from Saddam or his sons about how long it would take
to either restart CW production or make available chemical weapons.

find your rock and crawl back under it.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Look at Kay's quote above. Did he say they found WMDs? No. Did he say the found WMD programs? No. He said they found "WMD-related program activities". I know you wish it said more, but it just, flat-out doesn't.

he says he hasn't found wmd, and i never claimed he did. what he does say is the discovered materiel is wmd-related, important equipment
was concealed, critical facilities were sanitized, and other systemic efforts were made to destroy information. a number of biological and chemical
related programs they did come upon were in the employ of the iraqi intelligence services. i can see the humanitarian potential it has in their mittens.

As far as the rest of your moronic comments above, all I can say is bleated like a true, died in the wool Bush apologist.

coming from a frothing saddamite, a wonderful complement indeed.

You embellish Kay's actual comments to make them seem more than they are. For example, "innocent prison laboratory complex we built as a harmless architectural fetish"? WTF? There is nothing about a "prison laboratory complex" that suggests anything related to WMDs unless you have already predetermined that that's what you want it to mean.

from the report:

A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections
were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

your stupidity is rather selectively if you account for 'possibly' but not 'explicitly ordered' - and thats only with the text. this is a prison
laboratory. these two words in combination within ba'ath iraq, under hussein's control, do not constitute an innocuous compound word
form. predetermination is not a worry given all these simple variables. as your boy saddam was a 'bad guy' he cannot be trusted with
honorable motives to develop and oversee a prison lab complex which he desired to keep secret. but, ofcourse, you can trust him.

Are you suggesting there is no other possible use for the labs?

possible ? you mean within a social vacuum ? if we ignore who hussein was, what the ba'ath party was, their long history of internal
terror, what it meant to have a police state build a prison lab complex that it would have liked to keep secret from the world ? hmmm,
lets play bowfinger for a sec and conclude that despite all the above the possibility exists that this secret prison lab complex could have
served as a children's theme park. i mean, we're talking about possibilities, mathematical and such, outside the socio-political context. so,
yes, the possibility this prison lab complex was built by saddam for humanitarian reasons does exist.

The rest of your comments are equally banal. Lots of innuendo and asinine jabs, but no facts. Look at Kay's conclusions. Even he doesn't
claim Iraq resumed WMD programs. Instead, he notes, " Saddam ... had not given up his aspirations and intentions to continue
to acquire weapons of mass destruction." Not actual programs, just aspirations and intentions. The report does NOT say what you claim.

ah, so you fell for the mis-quoting, as predicted. there was more to the quote above. let me help you finish it:

Even those senior officials we have interviewed who claim no direct knowledge of any on-going prohibited activities
readily acknowledge that Saddam intended to resume these programs whenever the external restrictions were removed.
Several of these officials acknowledge receiving inquiries since 2000 from Saddam or his sons about how long it would take
to either restart CW production or make available chemical weapons.

find your rock and crawl back under it.

OMG he asked how long it would take to build weapons once he was allowed to do so. Good thing we invade and killed lots of people.