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Blix refutes Bush's claims about Iraq

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Are those pre-1990? Sorry, I'm in a hurry...wife wants to take the kid to the mall. Sheesh, this morning of all mornings she wants to go to the mall! Anyways, I have to be ready by the time she gets done giving the kid a bath, so I'm outta here. But I quickly looked over the links and, maybe I didn't look close enough, but I couldn't confirm them to be pre-1990.
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Are those pre-1990? Sorry, I'm in a hurry...wife wants to take the kid to the mall. Sheesh, this morning of all mornings she wants to go to the mall! Anyways, I have to be ready by the time she gets done giving the kid a bath, so I'm outta here. But I quickly looked over the links and, maybe I didn't look close enough, but I couldn't confirm them to be pre-1990.

I did, they were mostly written in the mid to late 90s, after the Gulf War.

 
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: hagbard
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
We know he has WMD if he has any jetliners, right?

Carbonyl, I've come to expect better of you.

First of all, in international diplomacy, "Weapons of Mass Destruction" means nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons. Period.

Actually, it only means nuclear. Chemical and biological were a convenient addition.

No, you are wrong. A weapon of mass destruction is a nuclear, chemical or biological weapon that can kill large numbers of people. It is not a convient or recent addition.

Provide pre-1990 documents that state that.

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"Pre-1990 documents that state that." All your proof is after 1990.

What is so magical about 1990? There are documents from 1991 that combine NBC as being WMD. What's the point that you are trying to make? Saddam has had or tried to acquire all three. I don't give a fvck what you call them, they kill people.

I also consider 1991 a long time ago and how you roll that into being "convenient" is beyond me. But then Hagbard, most of your posts make little to no sense anyway.

So, what is a "convenient addition"? Why was it "convenient"? Who was it convenient to?

 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
We know he has WMD if he has any jetliners, right?

Carbonyl, I've come to expect better of you.

First of all, in international diplomacy, "Weapons of Mass Destruction" means nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons. Period.

Secondly, using your logic, we should "disarm" United, American, Southwest, Frontier, etc. We should "disarm" any country that has a national airline. While the thought of taking out Air France is kinda nice, you logic here is stretched just a little too thin.


The point is of course he has WMD by any definitions and even if we don't find them your average HS student could make them over there and Sadam has tons of well trained high paid scientists. But who cares, it's a farse, it's a ruse? I'm a little preturbed the world is playing this shell game with bush and America trying to prove it. It started just with chemicals which we know hes had and been willing to use. I DON'T CARE IF HE HAS DESTOYED THEM, HE CAN BE ONLINE AGAIN IN ABOUT A WEEK, IT"S THAT EASY. Now though, it seems, we must prove to the world he has nukes before doing anything...Guess what, becomes a little late then, and then the regoin and the people in Iraq will suffer similarly as NK. I don't have a link but I'd be willing to bet our 12 years of sanctions have killed more irakis than any incursion into Irak would and have accomplished nothing but make Saddam into some hero to terrorists and a few billion richer. We need /needed Force, quick, decisive, overwheling anything else you average block bully deosn't understand. Have we learned nothing from history?
 
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
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I'm sorry. That was the funniest thing I'd heard or read since I looked at my W-2 a few days ago. Just as sad, too.

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Oh man. How am I going to respond to such profound wit and logic. Maybe I'll throw a hand full of sand. Maybe I can up the anti:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can pull up your pants now. Sorry for the spanking, but I practice tough love.


It was almost as good as the response you gave to my direct question a few days ago. You had a chance to back up what you have been claiming for some months now. Instead we get the usual incoherent, non-sensical psycho babble that has become the norm for your posts. You have become increasingly pathetic and irrelevant with regards to your contributions to any topic on this message board. I used to try to take the time to read your posts because there was usually some "nugget" buried under the BS. Now there is rarely even a speck and I just scroll on by what has become the most appropo avatar on ATOT -- the Moonbeam Clown.


Perhaps your too simple minded to understand what hes actually saying? Try reading his comments slowly..... Sometimes sarcasm can be hard to pick up via teH INTArWEB.
 
Perhaps your too simple minded to understand what hes actually saying? Try reading his comments slowly..... Sometimes sarcasm can be hard to pick up via teH INTArWEB

Perhaps but I doubt it. I think if I was simple minded I would be much more enthralled with moonie and it would lead me to write things like this:

diz wrote:
1) Moonbeam is the only one on these forums that seems to actually understand the situation. wuvu Moonie.
 
DaveSohmer:

It was almost as good as the response you gave to my direct question a few days ago. You had a chance to back up what you have been claiming for some months now. Instead we get the usual incoherent, non-sensical psycho babble that has become the norm for your posts. You have become increasingly pathetic and irrelevant with regards to your contributions to any topic on this message board. I used to try to take the time to read your posts because there was usually some "nugget" buried under the BS. Now there is rarely even a speck and I just scroll on by what has become the most appropo avatar on ATOT -- the Moonbeam Clown.
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Truth be told, I took the clown avatar to provide the simple minded with an easy shot. I thought it would flush them out nicely. I thought it would fit in with my theme of reflection. I have responded to your questions on numerous occasions. It boils down, once again to this. You say potato and I say potato. I want the proof that Bush is Saber Rattling. You won't provide it. I ask myself them, does this guy who loves to sware and throw insults as his main reasoning strategy know better than me, or should I rely on my own life experience. I trust my instincts more than I trust yours. At this point none of us really knows what the administrations real motives are. We don't know the future either. Lots of smart people think one way and the other. It's all a matter of personal judgment.

What you post on this theme is as equally incoherent, non-sensical psycho babble as anything I say because it is just as much your own opinion. You are very prowd of your stupid opinion though. 😀 I'll see you one and raise you one. Clown!

 
Truth be told, I took the clown avatar to provide the simple minded with an easy shot. I thought it would flush them out nicely. I thought it would fit in with my theme of reflection.

Yeah whatever. I'd bet money you said something like "ooh look at the pretty colors"

I have responded to your questions on numerous occasions. It boils down, once again to this. You say potato and I say potato. I want the proof that Bush is Saber Rattling. You won't provide it.

You have responded to nothing, not now not ever. As far as proof of what he is doing, the proof is what he is doing. You have never asked me why I think he is only sabre rattling not that I think we are necessarily doing that anymore. But I have quite clearly laid out why I think we are doing what we are doing. You do nothing but post senseless bullsh!t that you have no evidence to even begin to back it up with. Kinda like the oil pipeline.

I ask myself them, does this guy who loves to sware and throw insults as his main reasoning strategy know better than me, or should I rely on my own life experience.

What life experience is that Moonie. How old are you? What do you do for a living? What is your education? That might actually mean something to me if I had some frame of reference. As to any "adjectives" I might use they are at leasty on point and spelled correctly.

I trust my instincts more than I trust yours.

The little voices you hear in your head aren't instincts.

At this point none of us really knows what the administrations real motives are. We don't know the future either. Lots of smart people think one way and the other. It's all a matter of personal judgment.

Oh I think we do know what there motives are. They have said them very clearly. I'm not ready to call Powell a liar just yet.

What you post on this theme is as equally incoherent, non-sensical psycho babble as anything I say because it is just as much your own opinion. You are very prowd of your stupid opinion though.

You're the only one that has described my posts as such. Yours, on the other hand, are widely ridiculed not that in any way discounts their veracity

I'll see you one and raise you one. Clown!

Raise me one? Hardly. You don't have enough to cover the ante.
 
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Yeah whatever. I'd bet money you said something like "ooh look at the pretty colors"

M: And you would loose. How silly to argue you know what is in another person's mind. Very childish.
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I have responded to your questions on numerous occasions. It boils down, once again to this. You say potato and I say potato. I want the proof that Bush is Saber Rattling. You won't provide it.
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You have responded to nothing, not now not ever. As far as proof of what he is doing, the proof is what he is doing. You have never asked me why I think he is only sabre rattling not that I think we are necessarily doing that anymore. But I have quite clearly laid out why I think we are doing what we are doing. You do nothing but post senseless bullsh!t that you have no evidence to even begin to back it up with. Kinda like the oil pipeline.

M: Well here we go. I have posted a considerable amount giving my point of view and my reasons. The notion that what he (Bush) is doing is proof of what he is doing is an empty tautology. It's the interpretation of what he is doing that is the question. You have said that we were saber rattling, but saying and proving are two different things. It was always just an opinion. Naturally any interpretation different than your own has to be bullsh!t becasue you aren't mature enough to understand that people see things differently depending on their understanding, apparently. My evidence of the equivalence of yours, a reading of what is. The oil pipeline has its stinking reality. I presented that info as hearsay.

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I ask myself them, does this guy who loves to sware and throw insults as his main reasoning strategy know better than me, or should I rely on my own life experience.
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What life experience is that Moonie. How old are you? What do you do for a living? What is your education? That might actually mean something to me if I had some frame of reference. As to any "adjectives" I might use they are at leasty on point and spelled correctly.

M: We have a difference of opinion. My opinion is hat you resort to insults when your power to reason fails. It's petulant childishness and indicative of a bully. My spelling is probably the result of dislexia for which I've compensated with alternate strategies. I do not see words.

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The little voices you hear in your head aren't instincts.

M: More meaningless putdowns. You have no idea what you're talking about.


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At this point none of us really knows what the administrations real motives are. We don't know the future either. Lots of smart people think one way and the other. It's all a matter of personal judgment.
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Oh I think we do know what there motives are. They have said them very clearly. I'm not ready to call Powell a liar just yet.

M: I do not believe their words. I am also not absolutly sure Powell is lying. Oddly, we trust the same person the most, apparently. I am simply far more ready to raise red flags than you are, however. I'm not absolutly sure of anything, or am I? 😀


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What you post on this theme is as equally incoherent, non-sensical psycho babble as anything I say because it is just as much your own opinion. You are very prowd of your stupid opinion though.
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You're the only one that has described my posts as such. Yours, on the other hand, are widely ridiculed not that in any way discounts their veracity

M: Not true, I just had to come to your defense. Somebody said they had never heard anything, what meaningful from your posts. I suggested that if they wanted to hear something meaningful they would have to read them out loud. I see, quite often, a great deal of sense in your posts, this one included. I simply think that assumptions are very dangerous and I go after them at almost every chance. That I take a lot of ridicule is no surprise to me. I fully expect it. You find communality in a herd.

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I'll see you one and raise you one. Clown!
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Raise me one? Hardly. You don't have enough to cover the ante.

No, fortunately, I really don't.
 
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