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Harvey

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Originally posted by: Craig234
No, it's more likely we have the October surprise with the story that Saddam's conviction and sentence are set to be announced Nov 5, 2 days before the election.
Saddam's crimes and the subsequent legal actions are like Foley's supposed crimes against the House pages. They're already in the works, and they don't relate to anything that demands immediate attention or action with respect to our future actions.

If Saddam is convicted, it won't be any "suprise," at all, but I'm sure the Republican spin machene will try to use it as yet another distraction and diversion from the issues that really do affect our future.
 

Craig234

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Harvey, please view the following chart for a moment:

Bush ratings chart

It wasn't a surprise that we invaded Iraq, or that we caught Saddam (people know we were looking, just as they know the verdict is scheduled).

But look at the huge jumps - Bush has had only a few.

He can expect a big bump from the news story for the republicans.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Anyone have a link to what the general actually said?

From another article Honest man who spoke for his men
Although the detail of Sir Richard's words have got lost in the outcry, he stresses that he was not suggesting the British Army should pack its bags tomorrow.

He merely believes that a schedule for an early exit is necessary, because as long as American and British troops are perceived as occupiers of Iraq, they provide motivation and targets for one of the most violent insurgencies in modern history.
If that is what he said then he is saying the same thing a lot of other people are saying. While it is news worthy, I would not call it Earth shattering.

Only thing I would question is that the insurgents are killing each other, if we left there is no reason to believe any of that would change. WE wouldn't be getting killed anymore, but the violence that plaques the country would most likely go on. Although with us being gone one excuse of the Iraqi people on the cause would be removed.

I'll go back to what Rush suggested. In the next 6 months hand over control of the cities to Iraqis and move our troops to the outskirts of the country where we can patrol the boarders and keep outside forces from being involved.

You did not mention Rush....Oh Ya!
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Aisengard
We knew it! The Republican party is SO BAD that the only reason its most devoted members vote for them is because Rush Limbaugh has convinced them the Democrats would be worse! With no corroborating evidence!

Holy ******, the GOP is in a far worse state of affairs than the Democratic party ever was these last six years. And that is saying something.
ummmm I didn't even mention Rush, if you are going to try and insult me at least get the radio show right....

What evidennce do you have that the Democrats will do better?

Edit #2: I have been asking for weeks to name me one reason why I should vote Democratic. So far the only answer I get is that they aren't Republican.

I do notice you lie alot.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
ummmm I didn't even mention Rush, if you are going to try and insult me at least get the radio show right....
Ummmm... How about the third post in this thread? You said:
I'll go back to what Rush suggested. In the next 6 months hand over control of the cities to Iraqis and move our troops to the outskirts of the country where we can patrol the boarders and keep outside forces from being involved.
Reality check... Earth to ProfJohn... Earth to ProfJohn... Testing 1, 2, 3... :laugh:
What evidennce do you have that the Democrats will do better?

Edit #2: I have been asking for weeks to name me one reason why I should vote Democratic. So far the only answer I get is that they aren't Republican.
That's at least as good as any other reason. When you know those in power are lying, destructive crooks, breaking their grip on power is the first order of business.

I'll have to leave it to you to figure out whether you've got enough smarts to dump that neocon bag you've been wearing over your head and look at the facts. :p
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Harvey, please view the following chart for a moment:

Bush ratings chart

It wasn't a surprise that we invaded Iraq, or that we caught Saddam (people know we were looking, just as they know the verdict is scheduled).

But look at the huge jumps - Bush has had only a few.

He can expect a big bump from the news story for the republicans.


Not too sure about that... given that was when Saddam was caught... the Nation was in a prideful state... a conviction in this case will give as much fodder to the left as the right.. Everyone knows the trial is rigged to convict... But, I'd not touch that can-o-worms... I'd simply say.... Hurray for Bush.. He finally figured out how to get the job done and it was by not being involved or is he taking credit for jury selection.. or is it judicial prudence..

In any event... remember Bush does know how to enact an exit strategy... look at his Vietnam record.. so give him time... Iraq is much easier.. He'll claim our presence in Iraq has thwarted the immanent invasion into Israel by the Iranians... And look... they didn't invade... Sorta like saying using a 100 watt light bulb keeps elephants from taking up residency in your home.. and not finding any .. you've proof it is true.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
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ProfJohn, you remind me of TastesLikeChicken. You try to appear to be impartial, but you just can't seem to pull it off.
That's been my best guess. Similar writing styles, the feigned objectivity, and the M.O. of constant misdirection, e.g., his "The really interesting thing is the story behind the story." (paraphrased) whenever a new Republican scandal breaks. As far as I know, however, TLC was never banned. He just discredited himself so many times that he became a self-parody.