Bladerunner sux

[Jzero]

Why would I care if Ford is a replicant or not? Yes, I did notice some hints in the movie that leaves you wondering if he is a replicant.

It's the whole friggin point of the movie! Why would you care about Goku?

The really great anime I have seen doesn't have that much morals or inner dialogue. DBZ is really popular. Does the character in DBZ ever wondered about the organisms on the planets they destroy? No. Vegeta killed an entire planet full of beings. Does he obsess about killing those beings? No. The whole point of a movie is that it should be fun and relaxing, not boring and make you more depressed after you seen it.

I think you should revise that to say that the only reason you watch movies is for it to be fun and relaxing...that is NOT the whole point of most movies, and 99% of books, songs and all other art forms.

Good movies:
MIB
MIBII
Matrix
LOTR

I can't speak for MIB and MIBII, but if you think The Matrix and LOTR are all just about fun and cutting people up, you missed the point of those, as well, but there were enough blinky lights to hold your attention.

Looks over at DVD collection...
Dr. Strangelove
Pi
Being John Malkovich
Brazil
Cube
Evangelion
Macross
Record of Lodoss War
Armitage

I guess some people just have a penchant for the mundane.

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Why would I care if Ford is a replicant or not? Yes, I did notice some hints in the movie that leaves you wondering if he is a replicant.

It's the whole friggin point of the movie! Why would you care about Goku?

The really great anime I have seen doesn't have that much morals or inner dialogue. DBZ is really popular. Does the character in DBZ ever wondered about the organisms on the planets they destroy? No. Vegeta killed an entire planet full of beings. Does he obsess about killing those beings? No. The whole point of a movie is that it should be fun and relaxing, not boring and make you more depressed after you seen it.

I think you should revise that to say that the only reason you watch movies is for it to be fun and relaxing...that is NOT the whole point of most movies, and 99% of books, songs and all other art forms.

Good movies:
MIB
MIBII
Matrix
LOTR

I can't speak for MIB and MIBII, but if you think The Matrix and LOTR are all just about fun and cutting people up, you missed the point of those, as well, but there were enough blinky lights to hold your attention.

Looks over at DVD collection...
Dr. Strangelove
Pi
Being John Malkovich
Brazil
Cube
Evangelion
Macross
Record of Lodoss War
Armitage

I guess some people just have a penchant for the mundane.

Hahah End of Evangelion was just really, really stupid. Record of Lodoss War is kind of good but I think it got really boring near the end.
Also, for your saying about how a movie doesn't have to leave you relaxed and entertained, all I can say is:
money losing movie.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Also, for your saying about how a movie doesn't have to leave you relaxed and entertained, all I can say is:
money losing movie.

I think you just proved everything Jzero said. Thanks for playing!

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Also, for your saying about how a movie doesn't have to leave you relaxed and entertained, all I can say is:
money losing movie.

I think you just proved everything Jzero said. Thanks for playing!

I think you're a dickwad. Guess we're both right huh?

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: AaronP
In The Fugitve "Director's Cut" Richard Kimball killed his wife, and then framed the one armed man.

In the Director's Cut of Titanic the boat doesn't sink and everybody is saved. That James Cameron is a genius!

 

[yakko]

Originally posted by: TNTrulez
The director's cut version.

It has almost no action at all. The graphics were dingy. Why would New York or LA or whatever have buildings that spout flames from the top? To make the sky black with smoke?
Why is there no cameras in the corporation building to find out the replicants?
How come the replicant are not marked with identifiers?

What a crappy movie. Waste of 2 hours.

Well as for your fire question there it is not buildings that are spouting flame it is industrial factories. I have seen real footage of factory towns like Detroit where that really happens.

 

lemmie guess...you hated Beautiful mind too because of lack of action.

 

[friedpie]

A major point of the film was to show Deckard (The Common Man) the
value of life. "What's it like to live in fear?" If all the main
characters are replicants, the contrast between humans and replicants is
lost.

This means a lot to me. I hate the idea that he could be a replicant. I hate it.

My favorite quote from my favorite scene: "All those moments will be lost ... in time, like tears in the rain. Time to die." Roy Batty

BTW, I also thought Road Warrior was one of the best movies of all time.

 

[BillGates]

Now, come on, Bladerunner wasn't TOTALLY useless!!

For example, it gave me a great chance to take a refreshing nap.

It also helped the economy by wasting electricity (which I had to pay for), which keeps people employed at the electric company.

 

[dc]

dude, vegita is a whiney a$$hole throughout most of dbz. his sole ambition is to be the strongest and that's it, very shallow character at first. he was designed so people weren't suppose to relate to or symphathize with him until the late episodes of dbz where he finally realizes why goku is always the strongest, always the one defeating the strong villians. goku lives and fights to protect his friends, family, and loved ones while vegita just fights for himself. goku's selflessness vs. vegita's selfishness.

the turning point for vegita is basicly when he sacrifices himself for the sake of his family. and from then on till the end of the series he gets to come to terms that goku is the strongest physically and mentally.

and dbgt is a whole other story that i won't get into.

/me retreats into his otaku shelter

 

[Nemesis77]

:Q

I am shocked! Bladerunner is a true classic of sci-fi, praised by critics and viewers alike! It's one of the greatest movies ever made!

It just seems that some people are blind when it comes to these kinds of things. They just want bang-bang action and cool SFX. Intelligent plot that makes you think? Nah, that stuff makes my head hurt. Multifaceted and interesting characters? I don't care about that stuff, I want to see b00bs! Thought-provoking portrayal of the future? That sucks, I want big explosions!

To answer few of your points:

It has almost no action at all

It's not an action-movie.

Why would New York or LA or whatever have buildings that spout flames from the top?

Those were power-plants. Check facilites that use natural-gas. They often have flames like that.

Why is there no cameras in the corporation building to find out the replicants?

Find them how? They are indistinguishable from humans

How come the replicant are not marked with identifiers?

"more human than human, that's our motto"

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
:Q

I am shocked! Bladerunner is a true classic of sci-fi, praised by critics and viewers alike! It's one of the greatest movies ever made!

It just seems that some people are blind when it comes to these kinds of things. They just want bang-bang action and cool SFX. Intelligent plot that makes you think? Nah, that stuff makes my head hurt. Multifaceted and interesting characters? I don't care about that stuff, I want to see b00bs! Thought-provoking portrayal of the future? That sucks, I want big explosions!

To answer few of your points:

It has almost no action at all

It's not an action-movie.

Why would New York or LA or whatever have buildings that spout flames from the top?

Those were power-plants. Check facilites that use natural-gas. They often have flames like that.

Why is there no cameras in the corporation building to find out the replicants?

Find them how? They are indistinguishable from humans

How come the replicant are not marked with identifiers?

"more human than human, that's our motto"

I was going to write something meaningful, at least to me, but what's the point trying to communicate with someone who has MIBII on their list of good genre movies? I agree with you; one of the sci-fi classics. This was to a deep and thought-provoking futuristic drama as the original Terminator was to action-filled sci-fi thriller. Both excellent from start to finish.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TNTrulez
The movie sucked so much. Ahhh... it's worst than AI.

Well I now know who's opinion about movies I will ignore.

 

[farscape]

Loved Bladerunner. Must have seen it a dozen times and always got a little more out of it everytime I saw it. A Definite classic. The human/replicant twist always niggled a bit at the back of the brain, but I never fully bought into it. Guess I'll have to look at it again.

Other great movies - with a mix of (or lack of) action/style:

2001
AI
Terminator & 2
Alien - all of then(although #3 was the low point)
LOTR
Star Wars - fun and action, no brain stuff. Yeah - episode1 gross error in cinamatic justice)
Back to the Future -1, 2, 3
Predator
Rocky
Metropolis


Not all thinkers, some dumb fun. Not everyone gets it nor should they, but...

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: TNTrulez

Good movies:
MIB
MIBII
Matrix
LOTR

MIBII?


You are joking right?



Movies are art, not just explosions man.

Watch movies such as memento, Brazil, Amelie, Requium for a dream as those blatantly show artist form. Just because you have to think a little in BladeRunner doesn't necessarily mean it sucks.


Look at Star Trek. Everything is so obvious, that the only reason to see them is for the explosions, effects, and weird technology.


Seriosuly, look at 'Amelie' THat is an amazingly good movie, and you can see the little quirks that are throughout the film and the attention to detail the director put in.



To understand is to enjoy.

 

[Electric Amish]

As was said before, it's not a movie as much as a treatise on humanity.

BTW- You're the first person I've ever heard dis this movie.

amish

 

[LordJezo]

How about Gattaca as a good sci-fi movie?

The movie had a minimum of action but really hit me hard because its how I envision the future to be...

Happy, but with a whole lot of big brother....

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: TNTrulez

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: TNTrulez

Originally posted by: TallGeese

Originally posted by: TNTrulez
How come the replicant are not marked with identifiers?

To reveal the depth of this EXCELLENT film, I have a very simple question to ask you:
Who are the replicants?

Excellent to you maybe. But it was really boring for me. The replicants are those people that the corporation made to be slaves in offworld exploration and mining. Sounds awfully familiar to Issac Asimov's robots who were banned on Earth but are allowed to be operated offworld for purposes too dangerous or too menial for humans. These purposes includes mining, exploration, and running energy stations. These robots were self-aware and are often much smarter and stronger than humans. Robots were also built in different designs, including making them appear human(replicant). Replicants ==> robot rip-offs.

He meant WHICH CHARACTERS were replicants. That's the whole point.
As for them being "robot" rip-offs, you say that as though Isaac Asimov invented the concept of robotics...and the film was based on a P.K. Dick story (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?)--sci-fi writers have always borrowed concepts and themes from each other.

Asimov didn't come up with the concept of robotics, but he was the first to discuss the nature and uses of robots and the morality of using robots once they became self-aware.

Most speculative fiction writers copied extensively from Assimov's "I Robot." When someone comes up with a kick ass idea why leave it by the way side?

Read the book. There is not a whole lot of action, but it is much better than the movie. Philip K. Dick is one of the best writers of the modern era. if you want something a little different, with more action and a plot that will blow the mind of just about anyone, read Ubik. The man in the high castle is the best alternate history book I have ever read and I highly recommend it.