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Sho'Nuff

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From blacklight power's website

"BlackLight Power has invented a novel chemical process of causing the latent energy stored in the hydrogen atom to be released as a new primary energy source. This allows the negatively charged electron that is otherwise in a stable orbit to move closer to the naturally attracting, positively charged nucleus to generate power as heat, light, and plasma (an energetic state of matter comprising a hot, glowing, ionized gas)"

Interesting video here (note: skip the douchebag at the beginning and get to the good stuff at 1:13)

This tech looks awesome, and promising. Too bad it runs on water, which is already getting to be a precious commodity.
 

firewolfsm

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There are faults to quantum mechanics in specific applications, I wouldn't say faults actually...it's just easier (eg. simpler) to forgo all of that where it can be done.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Originally posted by: LostUte
Unless about 100 years of Quantum Mechanics is wrong, this is a scam.

The results are in 65 journal articles and have been confirmed by other leading scientists. Doesn't sound like a scam.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: soxfan
Originally posted by: LostUte
Unless about 100 years of Quantum Mechanics is wrong, this is a scam.

The results are in 65 journal articles and have been confirmed by other leading scientists. Doesn't sound like a scam.

Did you look at the journal list? They have like 60 papers that have been submitted and five published. Those that are published do not appear to be directly discussing their product. This looks like hydrino theory which was included as an example in a lecture in our physics department about crackpot theories.
 

PolymerTim

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Well, I have to admit that a lot of this is beyond me, but I looked up a couple of the papers listed so maybe I can add some details that others can explain.

Essentially, the claim is that by combining an argon-hydrogen blend (95/5%) with a vaporized strontium (vaporized by heating on a tungsten substrate) under and electric field of only 1 V/cm and temperatures in the neighborhood of 10^3 K, that hydrogen is catalytically ionized, either by the Ar+ or the Sr+ (or both) to yield atomic hydrogen. This atomic hydrogen then reacts with the ---- to form a hydride. Water bath calorimetry is used to measure the heat flow and it is determined that there is an excess heat over that expected from the heat of formation of the hydride. This is explained as being due to the formation of a resonant energy transfer mechanism (rt-plasma) producing an intense EUV emission. The reaction involved a non-radiative energy transfer. Additionally, it is claimed that to achieve the same optical output power from sodium-hydrogen, magnesium-hydrogen, and barium-hydrogen, 4000, 7000, and 6500 times the input power respectfully is required. The addition of argon roughly doubles this factor.

Mills, R. L.; Zea, H.; He, J.; Dhandapani, B. Water bath calorimetry on a catalytic reaction of atomic hydrogen. International Journal of Hydrogen Energy (2007), 32(17), 4258-4266. CODEN: IJHEDX ISSN:0360-3199. AN 2007:1374115 CAPLUS

I hope some of you guys understand this stuff better than I do. I have no experience with plasmas.

Edit: Of course, while this paper is real and seems very similar to the claims from Blacklight, I can't guarantee this is the technology they're actually using.
 

PlasmaBomb

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The lower-energy atomic hydrogen products can be used to form novel hydrino hydride compounds
Born2bwire FTW

Edit: fixed broken quote
Edit2: I call shens on the video. We can get hydrogen from water at a 1:1 energy ratio. No you can't.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: soxfan
From blacklight power's website

"BlackLight Power has invented a novel chemical process of causing the latent energy stored in the hydrogen atom to be released as a new primary energy source. This allows the negatively charged electron that is otherwise in a stable orbit to move closer to the naturally attracting, positively charged nucleus to generate power as heat, light, and plasma (an energetic state of matter comprising a hot, glowing, ionized gas)"

Interesting video here (note: skip the douchebag at the beginning and get to the good stuff at 1:13)

This tech looks awesome, and promising. Too bad it runs on water, which is already getting to be a precious commodity.
I kept a link to it from 2006. They have done NOTHING but write a book since then. If it was really a breakthrough, you think there would have been more. Sounds more like VC fleecing than anything else now as nothing has happened. Look at the dates in the press releases.

BTW, the last time I was at the beach, water looked pretty limited. Huh?

 

Cogman

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yeah, water is NOT a precious commodity, it is very abundant on earth. Fresh water is, but if this really did work then the solution of purifying ocean water would not be too far from reach.

After that, pretty much any claim to make water into a super cheap fuel source by throwing sciency words at it can quickly be denounce as a hoax, basically if the company is not reputable, there is little chance what they are saying is true, and if it is, then the product they sell (yep, you have to actually sell a product before you become reputable) would quickly launch them into fame and the first statement remains true.
 

cretinbob

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Sure you can. It's the innernets, you can do anything.


Yeah has a great multilevel marketing feel to me.