Black Man Wears ‘Caucasians’ T-Shirt To Gauge Hypocrisy About Racist Logos

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pauldun170

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Yeah, i'm absolutely positive he's completely full of shit.

NOBODY got upset and whined about racism when seeing his shirt. The guy is looking for attention and probably gets paid for page hits.

The story can probably be grouped together with the stories of "Girl walks around Manhattan for 24 hours ....You will be shocked by what happened!!!"


Couple of links about harassing Asian woman. One about that idiot anti immigrant lawyer and one covering some asshat losing his shit with a bouncer.
You are right. There are a lot of racists in NYC.

I'm going to stick with my position that the tshirt guy is full of crap.
 

Starbuck1975

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Let’s assume the story is true. In a city of 8.5M people, he found a handful of white people offended by an ironic t-shirt.

This means something!

For his next social experiment, he should walk through Times Square with a MAGA hat. I guarantee he will have some very memorable encounters.
 
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As a caucasion i dont see anything offensive about it. But im probably just weird.

If anything id probably be like "Go Skin....heads!!"
 
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ivwshane

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Let’s assume the story is true. In a city of 8.5M people, he found a handful of white people offended by an ironic t-shirt.

This means something!

For his next social experiment, he should walk through Times Square with a MAGA hat. I guarantee he will have some very memorable encounters.

You seem really defensive about this and yet you don't bother offering your own opinion about how'd you feel about the shirt. We should note however that you were quick to point out the "memorable encounters" wearing maga apparel would receive. You know, your "both sides" bullshit.

The purpose of the shirt wasn't to get peoples responses to show how they are hypocrites, its to give people perspective on something they clearly didn't have. Something you fail at time and time again.
 
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You seem really defensive about this and yet you don't bother offering your own opinion about how'd you feel about the shirt. We should note however that you were quick to point out the "memorable encounters" wearing maga apparel would receive. You know, your "both sides" bullshit.

The purpose of the shirt wasn't to get peoples responses to show how they are hypocrites, its to give people perspective on something they clearly didn't have. Something you fail at time and time again.

But couldnt someones perspective be "Wow cool. They think we are cool enough to name a sports team after us?".
 
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Something about HaybusaRider's desperate concern seems like its not quite genuine...but maybe that's because I've seen him do this same stupid act with regards to other topics. So, just like when he started calling people rapists for pointing out that women are more likely to be victims of psycho significant others with guns than to use them for self defense against them, wonder how long before he starts calling this black guy a genocidal murderer.

Should have been a "Paleface" t-shirt.

That being said, I'm going to guess that some of the reactions maybe people not so made at the "racism" of the shirt, but them recognizing that the guy is just being a troll with the shirt. If I saw somebody wearing this shirt, my first reaction would be "this guy is just trying to get a reaction out of me" at which point I'd consider him a jerk.

THAT being said, I really don't see much of an issue with Native American team names/mascots. I do think "Redskins" is pretty harsh, and Chief Wahoo of the Indians is a pretty racist cartoon depiction. I think it is up to those tribes native to that area to decide and voice their opinion on. You'll never get a nation-wide consensus from the tribes so going locally seems like at least a step with some logic behind it.

As Amused pointed out, he intentionally didn't go with a pejorative term.

I think its less that and more showing that people are fucked in the head and take sports so goddamned seriously that that is their actual problem. Like the first guy was mad at the guy because it wasn't actually a Redskins shirt, and then the old woman's complaint is basically that its "disrespectful" to the team by spoofing their racist logo.

The thing is, those "local tribes" kinda don't get a lot of say in shit, because, and I'm not sure you're aware of this, they were decimated awhile back and have been ravaged by other issues as we ploy this "we care, so here's some land, go make a casino and sell gas and cigarettes cheaper so you can make some money and pull yourselves up by your bootstraps" bullshit mentality (incidentally, because of the money involved, the casinos is one of the ways they actually can get through to politicians). That doesn't stop the Redskins looking for some to trot out claiming support, but that's the thing, its just a ploy, they show with their actions they don't actually care what those tribes think. If they did, they'd be using their platform to bring to light issues facing those groups today.
 

ivwshane

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But couldnt someones perspective be "Wow cool. They think we are cool enough to name a sports team after us?".

It could be but we are already aware of such thinking. We do have a sports team with a native American on it, called a beloved patriot, that millions of people are "cool" with, after all. The point is to show a different perspective.

I found the shirt "cool" because it forced that different perspective.
 
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As a caucasion i dont see anything offensive about it. But im probably just weird.

If anything id probably be like "Go Skin....heads!!"

I think that's the point, its deliberately not offensive, but even then its weird. Its meant to highlight how bizarre and racist the Redskins name/logo is. Why would you name your sports team after a race of people? Let alone using a slur term as the name.

I...uh, yeah not gonna touch that last bit.
 

Starbuck1975

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You seem really defensive about this and yet you don't bother offering your own opinion about how'd you feel about the shirt.
Why would I care about a t-shirt that makes a political statement. That seems like something you would have a lot of concern over. So much concern.

I’ve actually seen this shirt before. I passed a tall frat boy looking dude wearing one in an airport.

We should note however that you were quick to point out the "memorable encounters" wearing maga apparel would receive. You know, your "both sides" bullshit.
Equally notable is your response, because you know its true. I bet if he showed up at a Trump rally with a MAGA hat, he would find his treatment surprising. It’s not “both sides” bullshit. It’s throwing the bullshit flag on the tribalism that’s poisoned your perspective.

The purpose of the shirt wasn't to get peoples responses to show how they are hypocrites, its to give people perspective on something they clearly didn't have. Something you fail at time and time again.
You don’t start a conversation around empathy by being a dick, something you fail at every time you post.
 

Atreus21

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Nothing exposes racism like turning the tables and watching racist people react with hilarious angry hypocrisy.

"The shirt is a play on the Washington “Redskins” logo to demonstrate how people look wearing apparel with a logo that is blatantly racially charged and disrespectful.

The shirt doesn’t have any rude language or slurs such as “crackers” or “honkies”... but that didn’t matter"

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/frederick-joseph-caucasians-t-shirt_us_5b60a455e4b0b15aba9d49b1

I left @SXMProgress after just doing an interview with @XorjeO and it was my first time in public with the shirt on.

A white guy walking by mistook the shirt for an actual team shirt and yelled “Go Skins!” I said “nah”, he then saw my shirt and yelled “asshole!”

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Next, an older white lady stopped me in the street and said “why would you wear that? It’s disrespectful!”

So I asked her if she would have said the same if I had on the actually team shirt or another team using disrespectful branding.

She said “no, because that’s the logo!”

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The third person or rather people was a group of white guys across the street and one pointed at me. I can see from the corner of my eye that two of them were seemingly trying to come across the street and have a word with me.

I wish they would have, but that’s here nor there.

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As I walked through Manhattan, people looked at me and rolled their eyes, pointed, made snide comments, etc.

But, I’ve never seen white people do the same when people are wearing “Redskins” apparel, which is actually racist versus the word “caucasians” and a white man logo.

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Oh man I wish that had happened to me. I woulda given him a high five - that is freaking awesome.

The possibilities are endless. The beloved patriot-Socks. The Cracka-Nuggets.
 
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It could be but we are already aware of such thinking. We do have a sports team with a native American on it, called a *********************, that millions of people are "cool" with, after all. The point is to show a different perspective.

I found the shirt "cool" because it forced that different perspective.

If my memory serves me right, which it may not in my old age. Even most native americans didnt care about a team being named Redskins. Most likely it was some white person with white guilt that had an issue with it that started the whole issue to begin with. I dont really have a side on this particular issue as i dont really care one way or another if the name gets changed someday or not. It's not offensive to me personally and it seems most people dont really care about it, just like most people dont find the Caucasion shirt offensive. And to bend over for the minority is never a good road to go down because it would never end. Someone will always be offended by something that you would have to cave to.
 
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I think that's the point, its deliberately not offensive, but even then its weird. Its meant to highlight how bizarre and racist the Redskins name/logo is. Why would you name your sports team after a race of people? Let alone using a slur term as the name.

I...uh, yeah not gonna touch that last bit.

Yeah im not really sure his attempt served its purpose. Caucasion is not offensive. Had it been cracker, beloved patriot or some other word like that than maybe his point might have come across better. Assuming you even find those words offensive. I think they are meant to be, but they dont both me in the slighest.

The last bit was just a joke since he said in his articile someone said "Go Skins" to him before he realized it wasnt the Redskins logo.
 

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I'm in large part Cherokee and I think that's effing stupid.

We are all Cherokee. And White. And Black. And Asian. Every human is a mutt. Even Ishi. People getting mad about identifiers is absolutely stupid because the identifiers are just a lie to make people feel superior.
 

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If his reasoning for wearing the shirt was about hypocrisy of racist logos. He then by his own admission is being racist to prove racism? Yeah, he is so smart.
 

ivwshane

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Why would I care about a t-shirt that makes a political statement. That seems like something you would have a lot of concern over. So much concern.

I’ve actually seen this shirt before. I passed a tall frat boy looking dude wearing one in an airport.

Equally notable is your response, because you know its true. I bet if he showed up at a Trump rally with a MAGA hat, he would find his treatment surprising. It’s not “both sides” bullshit. It’s throwing the bullshit flag on the tribalism that’s poisoned your perspective.

You don’t start a conversation around empathy by being a dick, something you fail at every time you post.

Lol! Why would you care about such a shirt? Says the guy who remembered what some stranger at an airport wore.

So which is it, fuck face, does political apparel matter or not to people. You are a walking contradiction.


Oh and fuck your feels.
 

ivwshane

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If his reasoning for wearing the shirt was about hypocrisy of racist logos. He then by his own admission is being racist to prove racism? Yeah, he is so smart.

Yep, real racists/hypocrites are the ones pointing out racists/hypocrites.

/s
 

hal2kilo

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Who knew? Native Americans love being identified with a pejorative. What city do the N****rs team play in? Seems to me there is no difference right? By the way, I grew up as a Redskins fan. Can't even begin to bring the subject up with my brother who still lives in the area.

Edit: No problem with a team named the Braves. I would take it as a complement, but as you should know by now, you need to ask a native American how he feels about it.
 

Starbuck1975

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Lol! Why would you care about such a shirt? Says the guy who remembered what some stranger at an airport wore.

So which is it, fuck face, does political apparel matter or not to people. You are a walking contradiction.

Oh and fuck your feels.
I thought the topic of discussion was empathy.
 

pcgeek11

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This is no big deal IMO just like the beloved patriot is no big deal to most people ( even Native Americans ).

Anybody that is offended by this is just too sensitive IMO.
 
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