'black hole' is now a racially insensitive term

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Amused

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That's about the stupidest thing I've heard in a very long time.

But what do you expect from the leader of "Kwanzaa Fest?

Reason number 1,345,765 the black community needs to focus on education rather than blame games and ignorance induced outbursts.
 

ObiDon

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i hereby declare the word "jewelry" to be racially insensitive.

just because we have all the money doesn't mean that the shiny expensive things should be referred to as "jewelry" :|
 
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No longer may you use any colors to describe anything. I bet JWP would go ape shit if I used white out on a piece of paper because the white is covering up the black text.
 
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Originally posted by: Queasy
<forehead slap>

A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.

County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.

Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.

Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."

That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.

Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term. A black hole, according to Webster's, is perhaps "the invisible remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from which neither light nor matter can escape."

Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

un.be.liev.able

I hate America. And my response would have been "you are joking, right?"
 

Zedtom

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This is all so stupid. When I get together with friends, clients or strangers for drinks, one of the first things I like to ask is their take on political correctness. If someone is hypersensitive, I respect their view, but avoid deep discussions with that individual.
 

IEC

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Idiocracy?

Black hole is black due to the absence of light... frak'n morons.
 

rpanic

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Wiley sounds like an asshole if anything, hope I didn't offend any donkeys.
 

Yreka

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Im surprised he is so unfamiliar with black holes.. Judging by his remarks and website, it seems like his head spends quite a bit of time shoved up in one.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: jonks
At least he didn't say eeny meeny miny moe, too much paperwork's gotta go'

You know some days i really think humanity needs a reboot.

When I feel like that, I just put on Led Zeppelin IV and listen to Black Dog which always makes me feel....damnit!
 

DerekWilson

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Damn niggler. :roll: I bet his niggard ass is what brought them to the meeting in the first place. I propose using "hole o' nigritude" to agravate him even more. :roll:

some people have had a problem with this post ... here are some definitions --



black hole -- a singularity with high gravity from which light cannot escape

niggard / niggardly -- stingy person

niggler -- criticizer

nigritude -- being dark or black


confusing the word "niggard" for a racial slur is the same thing as confusing the phrase "black hole" for with a racial slur. just because it sounds like something it is not does not mean it is that thing.

while purposely using words that sound racist because they sound racist can actually be racist (if it is done maliciously intending to confuse the reader or listener with the racial slur).

but in the context of this thread the point is most decidedly to point out the fact that innocent language can often be misinterpreted (just like "black hole").

we appreciate the absurdity of the news referenced in the OP, but please be careful not to push the line so much that you actually cross it.
 

OutHouse

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the only racist slur was when this tool said "white hole" if i lived in dallas i would be demanding this ass make a public apology.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: DerekWilson
Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Damn niggler. :roll: I bet his niggard ass is what brought them to the meeting in the first place. I propose using "hole o' nigritude" to agravate him even more. :roll:

some people have had a problem with this post ... here are some definitions --



black hole -- a singularity with high gravity from which light cannot escape

niggard / niggardly -- stingy person

niggler -- criticizer

nigritude -- being dark or black


confusing the word "niggard" for a racial slur is the same thing as confusing the phrase "black hole" for with a racial slur. just because it sounds like something it is not does not mean it is that thing.

while purposely using words that sound racist because they sound racist can actually be racist (if it is done maliciously intending to confuse the reader or listener with the racial slur).

but in the context of this thread the point is most decidedly to point out the fact that innocent language can often be misinterpreted (just like "black hole").

we appreciate the absurdity of the news referenced in the OP, but please be careful not to push the line so much that you actually cross it.

I was eating black cherries while reading this...that guy's head would have exploded!
 

Rio Rebel

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Derek doesn't speak for me. I resigned over this issue.

I will not be a part of allowing such blatant racism as RapidSnail's post. I think he is scum, and I would love to see what would happen if he made that cute little remark in front of a group of black men.

To try to justify that obvious racial slur by bringing up technical definitions is just asinine. Everyone knows why he posted it and what he meant. Apparently some people just aren't willing to take a stand on that topic.

For all of the African American members who read these comments, know that I took them very seriously and am no longer a mod because of this. You don't deserve to see such things when visiting a computer website.
 
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Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Derek doesn't speak for me. I resigned over this issue.

I will not be a part of allowing such blatant racism as RapidSnail's post. I think he is scum, and I would love to see what would happen if he made that cute little remark in front of a group of black men.

To try to justify that obvious racial slur by bringing up technical definitions is just asinine. Everyone knows why he posted it and what he meant. Apparently some people just aren't willing to take a stand on that topic.

For all of the African American members who read these comments, know that I took them very seriously and am no longer a mod because of this. You don't deserve to see such things when visiting a computer website.

I'm black. I think you're a drama queen.
 

Rio Rebel

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confusing the word "niggard" for a racial slur is the same thing as confusing the phrase "black hole" for with a racial slur. just because it sounds like something it is not does not mean it is that thing.

This is just dead wrong. Context is everything.

I agree with everyone's assessment of the original story. It was a silly accusation of racism where racism didn't exist, and it is highly likely that the accuser is simply very ignorant.

But the difference is RapidSnail is intentionally using words that sound like n****r, to convey the message without using the word. There is no way in hell that we was using those words for the sole purpose of making the literal statement that they convey.

You can hide behind the dictionary all day long. You are willfully ignoring the situation. He did NOT use those words because of the message they convey through their literal meaning. He used those words because they SOUND LIKE n****r. It is the same as him calling the people in the story "n****rs".

Don't dare try to tell me that it is the same thing. It is NOT the same thing. You think this is a matter of ignorance to the literal meanings of the words niggardly, niggler, and nigritude. That is not the relevant point. You are turning a blind eye to the relevant point.
 

Rio Rebel

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Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Derek doesn't speak for me. I resigned over this issue.

I will not be a part of allowing such blatant racism as RapidSnail's post. I think he is scum, and I would love to see what would happen if he made that cute little remark in front of a group of black men.

To try to justify that obvious racial slur by bringing up technical definitions is just asinine. Everyone knows why he posted it and what he meant. Apparently some people just aren't willing to take a stand on that topic.

For all of the African American members who read these comments, know that I took them very seriously and am no longer a mod because of this. You don't deserve to see such things when visiting a computer website.

I'm black. I think you're a drama queen.

You may be right. And you may really be black. Either way, I feel fine about the position I am taking, and if you think I'm a drama queen, I can live with that.
 
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Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Originally posted by: Tooncesthedrivingcat
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
Derek doesn't speak for me. I resigned over this issue.

I will not be a part of allowing such blatant racism as RapidSnail's post. I think he is scum, and I would love to see what would happen if he made that cute little remark in front of a group of black men.

To try to justify that obvious racial slur by bringing up technical definitions is just asinine. Everyone knows why he posted it and what he meant. Apparently some people just aren't willing to take a stand on that topic.

For all of the African American members who read these comments, know that I took them very seriously and am no longer a mod because of this. You don't deserve to see such things when visiting a computer website.

I'm black. I think you're a drama queen.

You may be right. And you may really be black. Either way, I feel fine about the position I am taking, and if you think I'm a drama queen, I can live with that.

I posted my pic on here but anyways... are you black?
 

Phoenix86

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Price is a tool. The guy has a history of being an ass.

I feel sorry for the people who can't tell RapidSnail is MOCKING people who make things racist that aren't w/o context. RapidSnail has context, he's mocking Price's ridiculous outrage at terms that aren't racist.

Then people call him racist.

/head+desk

Fucking amazing.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Price is a tool. The guy has a history of being an ass.

I feel sorry for the people who can't tell RapidSnail is MOCKING people who make things racist that aren't w/o context. RapidSnail has context, he's mocking Price's ridiculous outrage at terms that aren't racist.

Then people call him racist.

/head+desk

Fucking amazing.

I don't feel sorry for the people that can't tell what rapidsnail was trying to do. They are fucking morons, plain and simple. That's my view and I'm sticking to it.