I usually wear Dockers dress pants, but i tend to stay away from black ones, because they lose color fairly easily. Even if before washing them for the first time, you can already see the knee area becoming lighter than the rest after a few days. Which means cleaning isn't as big of an issue as finding a pair of black dress pants that don't lose color from simply being worn. So where do i find these? I have no problem dry cleaning them every time and all, just as long as they look good (and stay that way) and don't cost a fortune.