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Black Children Denied IQ Tests in California???!!!

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: fredtam
Good for her. Maybe this will bring reality back to education. I only wish I knew what you needed to score to be selected for the remedial classes. Those test are denied to blacks because nearly all would qualify. Not because the test are biased but because evolution is. Yet we deny that fact and lump everyone together in an attempt to have equality. This is not to say blacks are stupid or can't learn but that different teaching methods may be needed and our idea that equality means everybody gets the same thing is flawed.

:roll:

Aren't you late for a cross-burning or something?


This is exactly the attitude that prevents true equality. I said something that might offend someone and I am considered a racist. If you knew me you would know nothing could be further from the truth.
I'll highlight the bit you may want to rethink:

Those test are denied to blacks because nearly all would qualify. Not because the test are biased but because evolution is.


News Flash: we're all the same species with the same intellectual potential regardless of skin tone.



There are no differences at all between races?

Edit: Even if the gap is not completely genetic in origin the gap in IQ between races cannot be denied.

Wow. Is this serious or just trolling?
 
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: fredtam
Good for her. Maybe this will bring reality back to education. I only wish I knew what you needed to score to be selected for the remedial classes. Those test are denied to blacks because nearly all would qualify. Not because the test are biased but because evolution is. Yet we deny that fact and lump everyone together in an attempt to have equality. This is not to say blacks are stupid or can't learn but that different teaching methods may be needed and our idea that equality means everybody gets the same thing is flawed.

:roll:

Aren't you late for a cross-burning or something?


This is exactly the attitude that prevents true equality. I said something that might offend someone and I am considered a racist. If you knew me you would know nothing could be further from the truth.
I'll highlight the bit you may want to rethink:

Those test are denied to blacks because nearly all would qualify. Not because the test are biased but because evolution is.


News Flash: we're all the same species with the same intellectual potential regardless of skin tone.



There are no differences at all between races?
Not beyond some cursory stuff like skin tone, etc. Certainly nothing that would prevent any given group from scoring well on a test like this. The differences here are social/cultural, not racial and definitely don't have any roots in evolution.

Edit: Even if the gap is not completely genetic in origin the gap in IQ between races cannot be denied.
Perhaps you could provide us with some data to back up both the claim that there is some genetic basis for differences in intellectual capacity amongst the various races and any studies you may have on IQ testing as well?

Social/ cultural @ 6 years old.? Please explain to me how the test is biased? You don't think that in the same amount of time it took to develop those cursory traits that differ that intelligence could not develop at different rates?

I can provide you with plenty of links but then you reply with links that say something different and then we just go back and forth. Google is your friend.
 
Originally posted by: fredtam
Edit: Even if the gap is not completely genetic in origin the gap in IQ between races cannot be denied.
Actually it can. Watch closely now.

I deny that.

See? Denied. Regardless, the IQ test was very biased for a long time, as it asked questions on events that culturally many minorities did not pay attention to. If you actually have any data to back up that claim -- and I doubt that very much -- it's worthless if it came before about 1985-ish. I think.
 
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: fredtam
Edit: Even if the gap is not completely genetic in origin the gap in IQ between races cannot be denied.
Actually it can. Watch closely now.

I deny that.

See? Denied. Regardless, the IQ test was very biased for a long time, as it asked questions on events that culturally many minorities did not pay attention to. If you actually have any data to back up that claim -- and I doubt that very much -- it's worthless if it came before about 1985-ish. I think.

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm
 
I don't think it's anything to do with genetics. I think it's more to do with the culture of the race that is pushing (or not) their young to strive for educational excellence.
 
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