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Black Book Car Pricing ?

Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.

 
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.

Negative.
 
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.

Negative.
So I guess I just dreamed that I worked at the largest dealership in the Southeast for 16 years, and I never actually saw the used car managers use the Black Book on a DAILY basis for this exact thing?

We "only" sold around 1000 cars each MONTH....so I'm sure our managers had no idea how to price trades. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.

Negative.
So I guess I just dreamed that I worked at the largest dealership in the Southeast for 16 years, and I never actually saw the used car managers use the Black Book on a DAILY basis for this exact thing?

We "only" sold around 1000 cars each MONTH....so I'm sure our managers had no idea how to price trades. :roll:

I guess I dreamed that I've worked for the second largest auto auction in the country for the last 20 years.

We "only" sell about 7000 cars a WEEK.
 
oooo, e-scumbag-penis battle!


*scumbag being how the general population views the used car industry
 
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.

Negative.
So I guess I just dreamed that I worked at the largest dealership in the Southeast for 16 years, and I never actually saw the used car managers use the Black Book on a DAILY basis for this exact thing?

We "only" sold around 1000 cars each MONTH....so I'm sure our managers had no idea how to price trades. :roll:

I guess I dreamed that I've worked for the second largest auto auction in the country for the last 20 years.

We "only" sell about 7000 cars a WEEK.
Auctions ain't the dealership, baby. You guys simply wholesale cars, you don't price trades. What cars are sold for at your auction certainly affects everyone's trade in price, that's for sure.
Again, the Black Book gets a lot of their info from auction results.

And dealers price their trades a LOT of the time using the Black Book....Fact.
Of course, UCD managers also use what they see at the sales as a resource when appraising a trade, too, but it is an absolute, undeniable, proveable FACT that they also use the Black Book very frequently.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Black Book is the definitive dealer pricing book.

If you want to know what dealers REALLY pay for trades, look at what the rough black book value is.

In actuality, dealers usually go by market reports which are generated by wholesale auto auctions throughout the country. THAT is the true indicator of market value.
Where do you think Black Book gets their pricing from?

Trust me, go to the dealership and have them appraise you car. If they don't know what it's worth already, they'll pull out the Black Book the majority of the time.

Negative.
So I guess I just dreamed that I worked at the largest dealership in the Southeast for 16 years, and I never actually saw the used car managers use the Black Book on a DAILY basis for this exact thing?

We "only" sold around 1000 cars each MONTH....so I'm sure our managers had no idea how to price trades. :roll:

I guess I dreamed that I've worked for the second largest auto auction in the country for the last 20 years.

We "only" sell about 7000 cars a WEEK.
Auctions ain't the dealership, baby. You guys simply wholesale cars, you don't price trades. What cars are sold for at your auction certainly affects everyone's trade in price, that's for sure.
Again, the Black Book gets a lot of their info from auction results.

And dealers price their trades a LOT of the time using the Black Book....Fact.
Of course, UCD managers also use what they see at the sales as a resource when appraising a trade, too, but it is an absolute, undeniable, proveable FACT that they also use the Black Book very frequently.

Guess what. Wholesale auction pricing determines trade-in value for the industry.


 
Originally posted by: CFster

Guess what. Wholesale auction pricing determines trade-in value for the industry.
Correct, and the appraisers get that info most of the time through the Black Book, as I've been saying.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: CFster

Guess what. Wholesale auction pricing determines trade-in value for the industry.
Correct, and the appraisers get that info most of the time through the Black Book, as I've been saying.

black book is not what you want to use on a hot car though...private sale for the win.

1988 and 1989 Turbo S Porsche are great examples and 1997 and 1998 Nissan 240SX's right now esp 5 speeds (the auto's are priced higher in Black and blue books).

For a standard mass produced car black book is what you are looking at and no one ever gets mint condition.
 
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