Black actors at the Oscars PART 2! WSJ Agrees with ME!

[SCSIfreek]

everyone is a racist in some way, live with it and get it over. however, we can teach our childrens not to be one.

 

[NFS4]

<< All I'm saying is taking the high road on an issue where you have done exactly what you claim to disapprove of be it a hardware or political forum is being hypotcritical. >>


You obviously don't get it.

- A GF4 getting 200FPS in Quake3 on a particular platform should perform on a consistent basis over and over if a test platform of exact specs is presented.
- A Toyota Camry should get 30MPG on the highway if conditions are proper for that mileage statement
- A Viper GTS produces 450 HP. While it may not be EXACTLY 450 HP, it's within a tight tolerance to that number

THOSE ARE FACTS!!!

- What was stated in the WSJ is pure opinion.

BIG difference. If you can't see that, go watch reruns of The O'Reilly Factor

 

[clarkmo]

<< So if I don't like some people in a city because I don't like their "squash fest" which is a living part of their cultural town I am a racist? Come on. >>


Yes, it means you're anti-squash fest lovers race, if there is such a thing. You are splitting hairs, though. Racism has such an ugly connotation but we all suffer from it. To not be racist is to be a saint. It's something we all do. There are just more viral and stupid forms of expressing it
Think about it:
You get introduced to someone who is identified as being an accountant, what do you do? Well, automatically you take in that information and process what you know about accountants.
You get intoduced to someone as Jamaican and you do the same. You associate them with what you know about Jamaicans.
You get introduced to somebody as a gypsy and so you do the same.
As an astronaut and you do the same.
As an actor who's black and whaddaya do. Think of AaronP. and now you anti-green geek. We deserve respect too.
It's what you do with your limited info on the race/creed/culture or ethnic of said person that might define you as a racist.

 

[MaxDepth]

Didn't anybody read the whole article?

This writer isn't just someone writing in to the WSJ. Look at the bottom line:

<< Mr. Varadarajan is deputy editorial features editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column appears Tuesdays. >>



He's a member of the WSJ staff and one higher up than just a writer.


And to add that he's mad a whitey losing just doesn't hold water.

Actually, I think he's pissed because "Lagaan" didn't win best foreign film and that there weren't any Indian hobbits!

"I must charge you Mister Baggins the full amount, even if you didn't spill the Squishy." - Apu, owner of Springfield's Quicky Mart

 

[Texmaster]

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<< All I'm saying is taking the high road on an issue where you have done exactly what you claim to disapprove of be it a hardware or political forum is being hypotcritical. >>


You obviously don't get it.

- A GF4 getting 200FPS in Quake3 on a particular platform should perform on a consistent basis over and over if a test platform of exact specs is presented.
- A Toyota Camry should get 30MPG on the highway if conditions are proper for that mileage statement
- A Viper GTS produces 450 HP. While it may not be EXACTLY 450 HP, it's within a tight tolerance to that number

THOSE ARE FACTS!!!

- What was stated in the WSJ is pure opinion.

BIG difference. If you can't see that, go watch reruns of The O'Reilly Factor >>




And you are STILL not listening. Drop your one track mind and LISTEN. Are you saying you have NEVER not once in ANY arguement grabbed a story from a newspaper to back up your claim? If you did even ONCE you are being a hypocrite NOW.

 

[Martin]

Main issue aside, I think everyone can agree that Whoopi's jokes were, vile, stupid and not funny by any measure of humour.

 

[pulse8]

The funniest part about all of this is how the ones who hated the Oscars the most continue to whine, bitch and moan about them.

 

[Pocatello]

Whoopi should be removed, hire some pretty blonde with breasts. She doesn't have to be funny, just don't wear anything JMHO.

 

[clarkmo]

Edit: subscribers sometimes suffer too. My previous post didn't show up.
So if I don't like some people in a city because I don't like their "squash fest" which is a living part of their cultural town I am a racist? Come on.
Yes it means you're anti-squash fest loving race, if there is such a thing. You are splitting hairs though. Everyone prejudges. It's one of our most common traits and probably essential to our survival. I mean lets' say someone is introduced to you as an astronaut at NASA. Whaddaya gonna do? Start speaking esperanto? No, you'll speak english on the assumption that the guy speaks english. Do you adopt your favorite karate stance? No, you operate on the assumption that he is level headed and not hostile. Why? Because all of that is based on what you know about astronauts at NASA. You make a prejudgement and thus are prejudiced in your actions and reactions.
It's what you do with your limited knowledge of the race of the person in front of you that determines how much of a racist you are.
And why would you not like people who like squash fests anyway. One of them could be Brittany Spears and you'd let a little squash get in the way?

 

[docmanhattan]

<< The funniest part about all of this is how the ones who hated the Oscars the most continue to whine, bitch and moan about them. >>

Well, considering that they both average well over 10+ posts a day, they have to meet their quota somehow.

 

[NFS4]

<< And you are STILL not listening. Drop your one track mind and LISTEN. Are you saying you have NEVER not once in ANY arguement grabbed a story from a newspaper to back up your claim? If you did even ONCE you are being a hypocrite NOW. >>


If I quoted a newspaper article, it was not from the opinion section. It was from an actual news story which quotes facts.

The problem with this article is not that is JUST an opinion article. It's the fact that the author is basing his statement on what he THINKS another human being is thinking or what their motives are. That is not worth quoting to back up AaronP's bigoted comments from the other thread.



<< Main issue aside, I think everyone can agree that Whoopi's jokes were, vile, stupid and not funny by any measure of humour. >>


I thought that they were ALL in poor taste.

 

[docmanhattan]

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<< And you are STILL not listening. Drop your one track mind and LISTEN. Are you saying you have NEVER not once in ANY arguement grabbed a story from a newspaper to back up your claim? If you did even ONCE you are being a hypocrite NOW. >>


If I quoted a newspaper article, it was not from the opinion section. It was from an actual news story which quotes facts.

The problem with this article is not that is JUST an opinion article. It's the fact that the author is basing his statement on what he THINKS another human being is thinking or what their motives are. That is not worth quoting to back up AaronP's bigoted comments from the other thread.



<< Main issue aside, I think everyone can agree that Whoopi's jokes were, vile, stupid and not funny by any measure of humour. >>


I thought that they were ALL in poor taste. >>

Okay, but what is making AaronP's comments anymore bigoted than opinions you have or say? And along with that what was bigoted about his comments and can you back up your answer with fact?

 

[Texmaster]

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<< And you are STILL not listening. Drop your one track mind and LISTEN. Are you saying you have NEVER not once in ANY arguement grabbed a story from a newspaper to back up your claim? If you did even ONCE you are being a hypocrite NOW. >>


If I quoted a newspaper article, it was not from the opinion section. It was from an actual news story which quotes facts.

The problem with this article is not that is JUST an opinion article. It's the fact that the author is basing his statement on what he THINKS another human being is thinking or what their motives are. That is not worth quoting to back up AaronP's bigoted comments from the other thread. >>



Once Again ALL articles have a certian amount of bias to them. Claiming that only articles in the editorials are opinionated is just plain foolish.

 

[NFS4]

<< Okay, but what is making AaronP's comments anymore bigoted than things you say? >>


What's your point? How is me saying that her jokes were bad being a bigot?


<< And along with that what was bigoted about his comments and can you back up your answer with fact? >>


I can't the thread was deleted.

 

[docmanhattan]

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<< Okay, but what is making AaronP's comments anymore bigoted than things you say? >>


What's your point? How is me saying that her jokes were bad being a bigot? >>

I'm asking what was bigoted about his (AaronP) comments and can you provide facts to validate your opinion? Since fact is clearly your way of defining veracity and legitimatacy, I asking you to do so now to backup your claims.

EDIT:

<< I can't the thread was deleted. >>

So there was only one single thread where AaronP's true colors prevailed? I kind of doubt that. If you're going to make a serious claim like calling someone a bigot, you damn well better be prepared to backup your accusation. I don't know if he is or isn't, but I would certainly be very sure of myself before I made such judgements.

 

[NFS4]

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<< Okay, but what is making AaronP's comments anymore bigoted than things you say? >>


What's your point? How is me saying that her jokes were bad being a bigot? >>

I'm asking what was bigoted about his (AaronP) comments and can you provide facts to validate your opinion? Since fact is clearly your way of defining veracity and legitimatacy, I asking you to do so now to backup your claims. >>


I would if the thread hadn't been deleted. If his actions/words weren't so offensive, the thread wouldn't have been locked and deleted. And making generalizations about blacks and their motives also doesn't sit well with people. I normally don't enter these kinds of threads, but his words (in that thread) were enough to draw me in to point out the error in his judgement about blacks.

 

[Texmaster]

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<< Okay, but what is making AaronP's comments anymore bigoted than things you say? >>


What's your point? How is me saying that her jokes were bad being a bigot? >>

I'm asking what was bigoted about his (AaronP) comments and can you provide facts to validate your opinion? Since fact is clearly your way of defining veracity and legitimatacy, I asking you to do so now to backup your claims. >>


I would if the thread hadn't been deleted. If his actions/words weren't so offensive, the thread wouldn't have been locked and deleted. >>



Oh so its always the creator of the thread that judges whether a thread is locked? LOL Oh man are you reaching.

 

[pyonir]

i love how AaronP hasn't contributed for a long time. hehe....

/sits back to continue to enjoy the show.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Geez NFS, why don?t you just cry about it. I didn?t even watch the Oscars, yet it doesn?t surprise me that there were racial overtones, especially not surprising from the oppressed Whoopi.

You, and the likes, spout off in every argument, ?Give me links, give me support, give me a sign from God to back up your argument.? Then when someone posts support you dismiss it with no thought whatsoever ? ?What does this guy know? You call that unbiased. Blah blah blah.?

What do you want, a quote from Jesse Jackson saying that the Oscars were biased? Maybe you shouldn?t post in this thread since you?re black; you?re obviously biased so your opinion is moot. Since the argument seems to be between mainly white & black people, we better only listen to the opinions of Hispanic, Arabic, Indian, Asian, etc people.

Wait, I know, why don?t I just tell you to STFU, or would that be cramping your style?

Not everything questioning racial motives is racist. Of course you?re going to label me a racist now. Whatever, go ahead. It doesn?t change the fact that I?m not racist. Boo hoo. Did you happen to look at the bio of the author of this opinion article? If not, I?ll post it here to save you the time.

Tunku Varadarajan

Tunku Varadarajan is deputy editorial features editor of The Wall Street Journal. His column, "Citizen of the World," appears on Mondays on OpinionJournal.com.

Mr. Varadarajan was a lecturer in law at Oxford University from 1987 to 1993, first at St. Catherine's College and later at Trinity College, where he taught Public International Law, Constitutional and Administrative Law, and Roman Law. He began his journalistic career in 1993 as an editorial writer for the Times of London, specializing in international and cultural affairs; he later served as bureau chief in Madrid and New York. He left the Times in 1998 to work as a freelance writer in New York, and joined the Journal in May 2000.
A native of India and a British citizen, Mr. Varadarajan read law at Oxford University. He lives in Brooklyn, N.Y., and is married to Amy Finnerty, a writer. They have two daughters, Katherine and Alice, and a son, Satya.

Sounds like a real biased source, NOT. This guy sounds like he has plenty credibility to me, much more so than you. Please stop victimizing yourself, you?ve probably been no more oppressed than anyone else on this board.

 

[NFS4]

<< Oh so its always the creator of the thread that judges whether a thread is locked? LOL Oh man are you reaching. >>


Well of course not

But that still doesn't take away from his original comments in that thread and WHAT HE SAID which sparked the whole thing in the first place.


But you are going to sit here and tell me that his generalizations about blacks and their motives was not grounds for interrogation?

 

[docmanhattan]

<< I would if the thread hadn't been deleted. If his actions/words weren't so offensive, the thread wouldn't have been locked and deleted. And making generalizations about blacks and their motives also doesn't sit well with people. I normally don't enter these kinds of threads, but his words (in that thread) were enough to draw me in to point out the error in his judgement about blacks. >>

Well, if they're as bad as you imply, then I can see why it was deleted, however, why was he not banned? I think that something like that would be just cause for a vacation. I do stand my point that you should have evidence before making such claims. Even if one source is deleted, there must be somewhere else where he has shown his opinions.

 

[clarkmo]

Oh. it probably wasn't the prescence of blacks on the show or their winning awards or hosting. It was the theme and presentation of the "black cause" which was dumb. Hollywood always plays to the lowest common denominator though. I think they went too low this time, thinking they were going to high brow but apparently only for the brain dead.

 

[NFS4]

<< What do you want, a quote from Jesse Jackson saying that the Oscars were biased? Maybe you shouldn?t post in this thread since you?re black; you?re obviously biased so your opinion is moot. Since the argument seems to be between mainly white & black people, we better only listen to the opinions of Hispanic, Arabic, Indian, Asian, etc people.

Wait, I know, why don?t I just tell you to STFU, or would that be cramping your style?

Not everything questioning racial motives is racist. Of course you?re going to label me a racist now. Whatever, go ahead. It doesn?t change the fact that I?m not racist. Boo hoo. Did you happen to look at the bio of the author of this opinion article? If not, I?ll post it here to save you the time. >>


OK, now is the point where I must hold back my anger

First off, I don't consider you a racist. Second off, I don't like either Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. I am against most of what the NAACP is after (and how they bash people constantly of other races...mostly whites). I have had to grow up through life being labeled a "white boy" b/c most of my friends were white and I grew up in a white neighborhood and had a white nanny.

I am VERY tolerant of many different types of people.

Me, opressed? Never in my life have I even had to deal with being "oppressed" by whites. If anything, I was opressed more by blacks for who I am. Think about that...

 

[ThisIsMatt]

So, NFS, I didn't see if you had posted your opinion on the whole oscars...care to enlighten me?

 

[NFS4]

<< So, NFS, I didn't see if you had posted your opinion on the whole oscars...care to enlighten me? >>


Other than the fact that I think that Halle Berry took to friggen' long with her speech, I thought that it was the usual: beautiful women, lame jokes from the host (as usual), and long as hell.