bittorrent ain't worth a crap most the time.

Sniper82

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Sometimes its fairly fast but most the time it's crap. I mean I am uploading more than I am downloading(9k to 20k down/13k up) half the time. I got the right ports forwarded and all(at least Azureus says I do). I got 3mb/256 connection.

Does anyone have any tips to speed things up for Azureus?
 

dighn

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what are the seed/leech counts like? there are a lot of factors that could give a bad speed. too few seeds, too few peers in general, leechers throttling their upstream to very low speeds etc etc
 

Sniper82

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not sure as it changes it sometimes has 3(124)/77(1323) whatever that means. Maybe its I just don't have something setup right? BTW firewall is turned off in XP.
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
not sure as it changes it sometimes has 3(124)/77(1323) whatever that means. Maybe its I just don't have something setup right? BTW firewall is turned off in XP.

the seeder to leecher ratio is pretty bad. that kind of crap speed is not surprising.

what's the icon color of the torrent in azureus? you can go to help->about (somewhere around there) and get a list of icon colors to see if ports are being blocked.
 

Sniper82

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it's green

is it possible to stop and start the file and it find new seeders and speed up? I ain't 100% sure how it works. Also how accurate is it at resuming say I start and stop it alot or my system locks up during download? Is it common to get corrupt files if a torrent gets started and stopped alot?
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
it's green

is it possible to stop and start the file and it find new seeders and speed up? I ain't 100% sure how it works. Also how accurate is it at resuming say I start and stop it alot or my system locks up during download? Is it common to get corrupt files if a torrent gets started and stopped alot?

ahh yes i forgot something

first, go to options and check the maximum number of connections allowed. see if the number of connections shown in the torrent view is capped by that amount. raise it accordingly. mine is set to 505, i doubt it could actually handle that many and it has never got to anywhere near that but so far it has been working fine for me.

another thing is make sure your upload is not saturated. set your upload cap to well below your maximum upstream bandwidth. maybe 60-80% of your capacity.

and there is nothing wrong with stopping and resuming. i do that all the time.
 

Sniper82

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k well something must have worked I got as high as 35k but its goes up and down alot. I guess thats about all I can expect from this torrent? I got 256k up and have tested my line with 24k up so I set my max up to 13k. Should I go higher on my upload?
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
k well something must have worked I got as high as 35k but its goes up and down alot. I guess thats about all I can expect from this torrent? I got 256k up and have tested my line with 24k up so I set my max up to 13k. Should I go higher on my upload?

supposedly higher upload (not to the point of saturating your connection) increases your download. but personally i've never observed this effect. i just cap each torrent to 10kb/sec b/c my isp has a bandwidth limit (30GB). and even if i raised it, their P2P traffic shaping limits upstream to 15-25kb total :thumbsdown:
 

Sniper82

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How do you find out if your ISP has a bandwidth limit(ask them)? If that limit is reached is your internet disabled till the next month? I am getting 40-65k now so something you suggested worked.
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: ^Sniper^
How do you find out if your ISP has a bandwidth limit(ask them)? If that limit is reached is your internet disabled till the next month? I am getting 40-65k now so something you suggested worked.

policies depend on ISP. mine doesn't state the number officially but generally ppl get warned when they go over 30gb, by email, then by phone call (which if you don't return, they cut your connection off). then they suspend you for a week at a time. too many times and they ban you.
 

Nothinman

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If you are behind a router, make sure you forward ports 6881-6999 to your IP address.

The ports are configurable, if you change them make sure you forward those and not the standard ones.
 

duragezic

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Dude I bet its Charter. I used to blaze up torrents pretty quick, like 3mbps ~330k/sec or so. I'm behind a Linksys but of course have forwarded ports, and I have correct config in Az.

But that was before. Now I live with 3 other people who tend to download and I think the signal here is FVCKED cause I always get disconnected and it feels like their slow service. I only get up to ~40k/sec, even with torrents that have a ton of seeds. And even when I was the only one here on it, it was still very slow. Speed tests normally get 1.5-2mbps by myself. Definitely getting screwed here considering we pay 53 effing bones a month for 3mbps/256k (yes that is correct, these people are greedy).


Anyway, I was under the impression that there was no need to forward more than whatever port is configured to be used. I mean it's handling all requests through that specified port, why open up more??

Odd, I can't believe I've never been warned by Charter for downloading. I've downloaded with no concern (mostly) since I've gotten broadband. Played a ton of online games too, that must contribute. Easily went over 30GB a month.

But I live in a small college town and they know this messed up place is full of big, ghetto old houses crammed with kids. When you have 5 people using the connection, thats 5x the bandwidth. Easily would hit several hundred GB per month if they all at least downloaded a little.


Oh finally last thing I ment to mention to you Sniper, perhaps Charter has a capped speed, perhaps during the day/demand hours, on things such as torrents (if that's possible?). Or just the bandwidth alltogether is overloaded. But it feels like at night the torrents will blow up all of a sudden, like they uncapped.
 

rh71

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your upload is pretty low... did you cap it at all or do you let it go to 32KBps full when it needs to ? If you cap the upload at less than 15KBps, your download is hardly ever going to reach above 50KBps on average.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Speed tests normally get 1.5-2mbps by myself. Definitely getting screwed here considering we pay 53 effing bones a month for 3mbps/256k (yes that is correct, these people are greedy).

Lol paying alot? I'd say that's heaven. We live in the country. Either Dial-up or Direcway. Since our old rotary lines only allow a max of 26.4kbps we chose direcway. Speeds are sometimes good. Sometimes get 1.2Mbps. Sometimes 200kbps. depends on what time of day it is. Upload is horrible 85kbps max. Not good news for bittorent. And we only have to pay 60 effing bones a month. (yes that is correct, these people are greedy.) If that wasn't enough if we download quote: "a large amount is a small amount of time (169MB in a 4-12 hour period of time)" we get dropped to the still deliteful speeds of 56kbps. And our upload speeds go to a zippy 10kbps. Speeds are quot: "usually restored within 8-12 hours" Plus this service works great with bittorent.

  • I can't open any ports to Azureus (They all have a NAT error)
    I get up to 120KB a sec on a linux torrent with a lot of people. (ANYTHING usually runs at 0 for about an hour with intermittent bursts of 1.5-5KB.) Though I am lucky enough to get 5 min. bursts of up to 12KB.
    From previous calculations, 92.3% of all bittorrents tried will fail.

I hope you will one day choose Direcway and join in our exciting oppourtunities.

 

Sniper82

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do you all mean set my upload to 32k and just let it use whats needed? I got it at 13k now and my speed goes from 30k up to 70k. It goes up and down.
 

duragezic

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No I wouldn't dedicate more than 15k/s. As long as you have about 2-3k/s upload per torrent you generally can get into the hundreds in download.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: duragezic
No I wouldn't dedicate more than 15k/s. As long as you have about 2-3k/s upload per torrent you generally can get into the hundreds in download.
that's not been true for me. Need to be upping higher than 15KBps each torrent to get anything worth a damn in my experience.
 

Nothinman

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that's not been true for me. Need to be upping higher than 15KBps each torrent to get anything worth a damn in my experience.

Depends on how many seeds and peers there are, I regularly limit my torrents to ~1K/s and get good speeds.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: duragezic
Dude I bet its Charter. I used to blaze up torrents pretty quick, like 3mbps ~330k/sec or so. I'm behind a Linksys but of course have forwarded ports, and I have correct config in Az.

But that was before. Now I live with 3 other people who tend to download and I think the signal here is FVCKED cause I always get disconnected and it feels like their slow service. I only get up to ~40k/sec, even with torrents that have a ton of seeds. And even when I was the only one here on it, it was still very slow. Speed tests normally get 1.5-2mbps by myself. Definitely getting screwed here considering we pay 53 effing bones a month for 3mbps/256k (yes that is correct, these people are greedy).


Anyway, I was under the impression that there was no need to forward more than whatever port is configured to be used. I mean it's handling all requests through that specified port, why open up more??

Odd, I can't believe I've never been warned by Charter for downloading. I've downloaded with no concern (mostly) since I've gotten broadband. Played a ton of online games too, that must contribute. Easily went over 30GB a month.

But I live in a small college town and they know this messed up place is full of big, ghetto old houses crammed with kids. When you have 5 people using the connection, thats 5x the bandwidth. Easily would hit several hundred GB per month if they all at least downloaded a little.


Oh finally last thing I ment to mention to you Sniper, perhaps Charter has a capped speed, perhaps during the day/demand hours, on things such as torrents (if that's possible?). Or just the bandwidth alltogether is overloaded. But it feels like at night the torrents will blow up all of a sudden, like they uncapped.

Dude, Charter ain't your problem. I have Charter and my speeds are great. 4M D/256K U connection.