Bit Torrent goes legit?

mshan

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070226/ap_en_tv/downloading_movies



By GARY GENTILE, AP Business Writer Mon Feb 26, 12:30 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) ? BitTorrent Inc., makers of a technology often used to trade pirated copies of Hollywood movies, is launching a Web site that will sell downloads of films and TV shows licensed from the studios.


The BitTorrent Entertainment Network was set to launch Monday with films from Warner Bros., Paramount Pictures, 20th Century Fox, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Lionsgate and episodes of TV shows such as "24" and "Punk'd."

The service is squarely aimed at young men and boys who regularly use BitTorrent to trade pirated versions of the same films and who more often watch such files on their computer instead of on a big screen TV in the living room.

The San Francisco-based company is betting that at least one-third of the 135 million people who have downloaded the BitTorrent software will be willing to pay for high-quality legitimate content rather than take their chances with pirated fare.

"The vast majority of our audience just loves digital content," Ashwin Navin, president and co-founder of BitTorrent, told The Associated Press. "Now we have to program for that audience and create a better experience for that content so the audience converts to the service that makes the studios money."

To help wean users to paying for content, BitTorrent is featuring content and pricing that appeals to its target demographic ? males between the ages of 15 and 35.

TV episodes are $1.99 to download to own, which is typical for competitor sites such as Apple Inc.'s iTunes.

The new site will rent movies for a 24-hour viewing period for $3.99 for new titles and $2.99 for older films, but the site has decided not to sell films for now because the prices demanded by the studios were too high.

"We're really hammering the studios to say, 'Go easy on this audience,'" Navin said. "We need to give them a price that feels like a good value relative to what they were getting for free."

The service also will offer Japanese anime and high-definition video, which is popular with its users. Individuals will be able to publish their works to the site, which will compete for attention beside studio content.

The BitTorrent technology pioneered by Bram Cohen assembles digital movies and other computer files from separate bits of data downloaded from other computer users across the Internet. Its decentralized nature makes downloading more efficient, meaning that a full-length movie should download in about a half hour, about twice as fast as some other sites.

Navin said TV episodes should download in about one-third that time.

BitTorrent's decentralized structure also frustrated the entertainment industry's efforts to find and identify movie pirates.

In 2005, after the studios won a key legal decision against another pirate software company,
Grokster, Cohen agreed to remove links to pirated files and start talks to license legitimate content.

Studios also got more comfortable with the idea of distributing content over peer-to-peer networks after they adopted strong digital rights management safeguards created by Microsoft Corp.

BitTorrent's content is protected by Windows Media DRM and will only play back using Windows Media Player.

Studios striking deals with peer-to-peer networks is a good first step toward allowing users to more freely distribute films and TV shows on the Internet, but it may take another five years or more for Hollywood to become completely comfortable with that, one analyst said.

"Their biggest concern is that an anonymous person passes it to an anonymous person," said Les Ottolenghi, chairman and president of Intent Mediaworks Inc., a company that helps content owners protect their works on peer-to-peer networks.

Ottolenghi recently chaired a task force that looked at digital watermarking, a technology that helps content owners track the route of its files as they make they way around the Internet.

"Their greatest hope is that someone at home passes it on to someone at home, from one device to the next, and that becomes a value to the consumer," he said.

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On the Net:

BitTorrent Inc.: http://www.bittorrent.com
 

RichUK

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Originally posted by: hjo3
BitTorrent's never been illegitimate...

That's correct.

A company my friend works for used bit torrent once to distribute some data.
 

deadlyapp

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The system has never been illegitimate, it was other sites that provided trackers.
 

uhohs

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people love having to pay for stuff and share their bandwidth/connections... lol.
 

Eeezee

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Blizzard has been using bit torrent to upload files to people for years... it was never illegitimate
 

jdoggg12

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Screw that, until its $5ish to OWN any movie, they can eat sh*t.... i'll keep using torrent sites to get free movies. $5 is more than fair since theres no physical product to distribute/create etc....
 

Firebot

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TV episodes for 1.99$ each to own is definitly a good price that I see people going for. The 24-hour movie idea is decent, but still too high, yet the MPAA actually wants more then this and won't even go this low.

At least TV networks know what works. With seeing networks like CBS and NBC becoming a part of Youtube, and now this, they know how to cater to a 21st century audience.
 

nakedfrog

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$1 for a TV show would be okay, but not two. I mean, come on, they already rake in the bucks from the commercials, and they won't be paying much for the bandwidth. If the commercials are still in the downloaded version, they should be free.
 

Ricochet

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This is a good thing. More competition to Blockbuster and Netflix.

What I'd really like to see is distribution of music videos. Being able to choose from a selection of every music video ever made would be awesome.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Screw that, until its $5ish to OWN any movie, they can eat sh*t.... i'll keep using torrent sites to get free movies. $5 is more than fair since theres no physical product to distribute/create etc....

The physical product is not why movies cost as much as they do. The prices they're charging to rent are comparable to Blockbuster and Hollywood Video, and I don't have to leave my house!

This is what I'd like to see though:
- Ability to rent TV shows. At $2 an episode, I'd rather buy the DVD. At $.25-.50 an episode, I'd rent entire seasons of shows and watch it once through.
- Napster-like unlimited plan. I'd pay $30 or so a month to be able to download whatever movies I want and watch them as long as I continue to pay the monthly fee. That is, if there is a good selection.
 

Motek

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Most of the files that people choose to host with torrents are usually illegal.

The program and network itself is 100% legit.
 

Journer

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what a dumb idea...who pays 2 bucks for an episode? fck that...although paying for hard to get anime might be worth it...
 

jdoggg12

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Screw that, until its $5ish to OWN any movie, they can eat sh*t.... i'll keep using torrent sites to get free movies. $5 is more than fair since theres no physical product to distribute/create etc....

The physical product is not why movies cost as much as they do. The prices they're charging to rent are comparable to Blockbuster and Hollywood Video, and I don't have to leave my house!

This is what I'd like to see though:
- Ability to rent TV shows. At $2 an episode, I'd rather buy the DVD. At $.25-.50 an episode, I'd rent entire seasons of shows and watch it once through.
- Napster-like unlimited plan. I'd pay $30 or so a month to be able to download whatever movies I want and watch them as long as I continue to pay the monthly fee. That is, if there is a good selection.

Their prices are as high as they are b/c of overhead (buying discs, stores, employees). This service is totally internet based, and if their distribution relies on P2P (in the case of a torrent), they wouldn't even need monstrous servers.

It is simply greed by the industry.

I paid a lot of attention in my econ classes b/c this whle issue interested me. Trust me, they are simply unwilling to let their grip on the cash cow go. Their expenses are only high b/c they are unwilling to change, but piracy is forcing them to, so they are kicking and screaming about it.




I agree with you on the napster thing though!!
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: jdoggg12
Screw that, until its $5ish to OWN any movie, they can eat sh*t.... i'll keep using torrent sites to get free movies. $5 is more than fair since theres no physical product to distribute/create etc....

The physical product is not why movies cost as much as they do. The prices they're charging to rent are comparable to Blockbuster and Hollywood Video, and I don't have to leave my house!

This is what I'd like to see though:
- Ability to rent TV shows. At $2 an episode, I'd rather buy the DVD. At $.25-.50 an episode, I'd rent entire seasons of shows and watch it once through.
- Napster-like unlimited plan. I'd pay $30 or so a month to be able to download whatever movies I want and watch them as long as I continue to pay the monthly fee. That is, if there is a good selection.

Their prices are as high as they are b/c of overhead (buying discs, stores, employees). This service is totally internet based, and if their distribution relies on P2P (in the case of a torrent), they wouldn't even need monstrous servers.

It is simply greed by the industry.

I paid a lot of attention in my econ classes b/c this whle issue interested me. Trust me, they are simply unwilling to let their grip on the cash cow go. Their expenses are only high b/c they are unwilling to change, but piracy is forcing them to, so they are kicking and screaming about it.




I agree with you on the napster thing though!!

"It is simply greed by the industry."
"they are simply unwilling to let their grip on the cash cow go."

Interesting statements. What do you do for a living? If your employer started paying you 1/3 of what you make now, what would you do?