Bioware RPG's are the finest combat experiences

[micrometers]

I'm basing this on two of their latest games: Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2.

Basically, my theory is that all games are to a certain extent RPG's. Even Halo is an RPG because you have a map with enemies that have hit points and the damage that your gun does is based on stats.

The difference is that in HALO you cannot change the statistics of the weapons.

The beauty of Bioware games is that they allow you to customize the statistics of your weapons so you can try a bunch of different paths in combat. Which sort of lets you have a meta-game on top of the running and gunning combat.

Similar for Dragon Age 2. It's actually a lot like God of War 3, but I find it better because you can alter the statistics which allows for many new avenues of combat and combinations. At the same time, the real time aspect of the game is still important.

 

[viivo]

Ohh, I get it now. Your posts were deceptive at first because irony on the internet is usually more complex than this.

 

[postmortemIA]

McDonalds is finest dining experience. Their burgers are customizable, you can add lettuce, tomato, pickles, onions, mayo...

 

[Zorander]

I'm basing this on two of their latest games: Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2.

Basically, my theory is that all games are to a certain extent RPG's. Even Halo is an RPG because you have a map with enemies that have hit points and the damage that your gun does is based on stats.

The difference is that in HALO you cannot change the statistics of the weapons.

The beauty of Bioware games is that they allow you to customize the statistics of your weapons so you can try a bunch of different paths in combat. Which sort of lets you have a meta-game on top of the running and gunning combat.

Similar for Dragon Age 2. It's actually a lot like God of War 3, but I find it better because you can alter the statistics which allows for many new avenues of combat and combinations. At the same time, the real time aspect of the game is still important.

Yes, we know you like these two games. But why do you need to continually post these threads for affirmation? Are you not so sure anymore? :hmm:

And that bolded part is downright delusional. There are other games with true weapon customisation. ME2 & DA2 allow very very limited customisation.

 

[micrometers]

Yes, we know you like these two games. But why do you need to continually post these threads for affirmation? Are you not so sure anymore? :hmm:

And that bolded part is downright delusional. There are other games with true weapon customisation. ME2 & DA2 allow very very limited customisation.

There really is only so much you can customize weapons before making levels for it become almost impossible due to the huge variances involved. I think Bioware hit the right balance between action and balancing in those two games.

 

[zerocool84]

Those two are not even close to being the best Bioware games.

 

[Todd33]

Ohh, I get it now. Your posts were deceptive at first because irony on the internet is usually more complex than this.

Yep, Bioware has pretty bad combat, just not quite as bad as Bethesda. Play Dark Souls for something good.

 

[micrometers]

Those two are not even close to being the best Bioware games.

They are the best bioware games. You have to look past the old paradigms.

 

[Zorander]

They are the best bioware games. You have to look past the old paradigms.

In terms of graphics and "cool-action", I can agree on that.

In terms of depth and complexity, far from it.

 

[shortylickens]

This is the new gamer.
And he is, by far, the majority.

 

[TheVrolok]

This is the new gamer.
And he is, by far, the majority.

^^

And why we will never see a BG 3.

 

[Zorander]

Classic example of judging a book by its cover indeed.

I had fun replaying ME2 & DA2 on Hard difficulty (eyecandy is top-notch indeed) but I do not consider them gems, let alone the best of Bioware games. They will be forgotten in a few years time (by prettier games). DA:O and BG have truly memorable storyline with believable world, which are not easy to create nor forget.

 

[Sulaco]

They are the best bioware games. You have to look past the old paradigms.

Says who? Based on what? Because 'teh grafix' are so rad? Because they're voice acted? Because you enjoy the brain dead action sequences and gimmicky flash?

Sorry, but RPGs should be judged by the three pillars of story, characters, and dialogue. It's what sets the genre apart from every other one.

 

[Axon]

RPGs are like taste in women (or men) - no two people agree.

Example: I get along with frumpy, nerdy chicks on a personal level, but I am only physically attracted to over the top club type chicks. So I'm a masochist. Thus, I like Dark Souls.

 

[micrometers]

Says who? Based on what? Because 'teh grafix' are so rad? Because they're voice acted? Because you enjoy the brain dead action sequences and gimmicky flash?

Sorry, but RPGs should be judged by the three pillars of story, characters, and dialogue. It's what sets the genre apart from every other one.

The action sequences were quite tactical. I spent a fair amount of time adjusting the tactics slot of my characters so that they would make full use of their abilities. It felt like controlling an entire WOW party during an instance, basically.

Dragon Age 2's story was also much better. DA:O had me falling asleep at the banality of the story. The Darkspawn are some of the most boring antagonists I've ever seen in a video game. DA:O has arguments for both sides of Mage vs Templar.

Basically, DA2 felt to me like the first bioware game that could truly and accurately be described as the sequel to Knights of the Old Republic. Since the Mass Effect games were 3rd person shooters they didn't really count.

And the characters in DA2 were amusing enough. Isabella I enjoyed.

 

[PowerYoga]

McDonalds is finest dining experience. Their burgers are customizable, you can add lettuce, tomato, pickles, onions, mayo...

Who puts mayo on burgers!?

 

[Oyeve]

Who puts mayo on burgers!?

Must be from that other "coast".

 

[Dumac]

Who puts mayo on burgers!?

Everyone?

I've been to all three coasts. Mayo on burgers at all of them.

 

[coldmeat]

Who puts mayo on burgers!?

Unfortunately, pretty much every burger/sandwich shop. It's damn near impossible to find a pre-made sandwich without mayo around here.

 

[micrometers]

Unfortunately, pretty much every burger/sandwich shop. It's damn near impossible to find a pre-made sandwich without mayo around here.

I always put mayo on burgers.

If you want cheese, it's like 70 cents extra.

 

[Zorander]

I grew up with McChickens as a kid and these had Mayo in them. Yummy, as long as there is not too much of it.