Biostar M7VIG Pro - issues

[OatMan]

Jump ball for any peeps familiar with this board.

Just got one from newegg and put together an inexpensive system for a friend. Just got the spanking new MBM 5.3 (came out just hours ago and the alerts are going nuts. No I knew that certain bios versions had temp reading issues, but I have also read that some newer implementations/chipsets read from the cpu diodes different than in the past and there was a controversy with people RMAing stuff because they read temps "too hot". The controversy was whether they were actually acurate or if people just had an expectation... I don't know what the deal was but...

anyway, MBM is reading one senor at 55C and the other at 127C. I don't believe it, but I don't want to ignore it. The Volcano 9 sink is cool to the touch. I don't feel any heat. And MBM is reporting a fan speed for the CPU of 56,000 rpm, which if it were true would mean my computer would show up on air defense radar.

Bios version:
vig1113b pro (as shipped)
I didn't update the BIOS as I previously had an issue with their updater and don't have the time to RMA again.
Any insight into this will be greatly appreciated.
-OM

 

[Iron Woode]

what temps does the BIOS show?

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
what temps does the BIOS show?

I just checked Motherboard Monitors list of supported boards and yours is not listed.

 

[bambam]

I am looking at this one and an ASUS A7N266-VM ( supposedly has better video but no USB 2.0 )for a budget Durson 950 system I am putting together.

 

[Remedy]

I just had this board and had similar tempeture reading problems. But it's not really the boards fault, rather it is the TD management reads it off all the way. I just ignore it because the system ran fine 24/7 with generic PC2100 from pcboost and XP 2000+.

 

[OatMan]

Iron Woode - sensor one set to windbond1 = -27C (iddle/light use)
so its clearly wrong, or the laws of thermodynamics are broken in my appartment.

sensor one set to winbond1 2n3904 = no signal

sensor one set to winbond1 diode = 127C (can't be right, or I'd have melted down)

sensor two set to winbond2 = 55C (iddle light use) - this is the only setting that gives any value.

Fan one set to W83697HF-1 = 56,250 RPM (unlikely for my 40CFM panaflo H1A)
Fan two set to W83697HF-2 = no signal.

**edit** these are MBM readings, the BIOS shows 55C (same as diode in MBM)

ReMeDy - could you expand on what you mean? I don't know what TD management means. If I follow, it sounds like your saying that the displayed values are incorrect, but not due to the Motherboard hardware. If you know where I could read more about it, that would be great.

bambam - There have been a few threads on this. There is an ECS board that was also in the mix. I'm personally of the oppinion that if your using integrated graphics, then it can't be that important. I found the 6 channel C-Media and USB 2.0 to be worth the $58 shipped from NewEgg. The Biostar also has a 1/5 divider. I picked up a Valcano9 for $19, $40 HyperX PC3000 256mb, and a $50 Tbred-b which can usually run at default voltage and over 2GHz and am going to just set the FSB to 166. But I wanted to address this temp monitoring issue first. That's a whole lotta PC for $170. I just hope the 300W PS I have lying around is up to it. So far so good at default speed.

Good luck with your choice. This is the second machine I've built using this board. The first was from an alleged bad batch and had to be RMA'd (It clearly didn't work at all). Its replacement and this second board have been flawless (accept for this temp thing).

 

[Remedy]

TD, Thermal Probe is what I meant. The Biostar tried to tell me the Tbred XP I had was running @ 60c with a delta on it. There is something wrong with the Thermal management on the sockets probe reader. I never get that with a KT400 from Soyo and it was the same processor. it also tried to tell me my case temp was around 55degrees. I ignored it because I didn't even run it in a case. It was bare on a pedestal. So I wouldn't worry about the onboard thermal readings. It's not correct by anymeans. I would use a 3rd party thermal probe for any measuring.

 

[tcsenter]

anyway, MBM is reading one senor at 55C and the other at 127C. I don't believe it, but I don't want to ignore it. The Volcano 9 sink is cool to the touch. I don't feel any heat. And MBM is reporting a fan speed for the CPU of 56,000 rpm, which if it were true would mean my computer would show up on air defense radar.

So this guy goes to see his doctor. The doctor asks, "What is your complaint, today?"

The guy answers, "Well, doctor, when I move my arm at the elbow, like this, it really hurts. Is there anything you can do?"

The doctor responds, "I have just the thing to take care of that pain - don't move your arm like that." Badda bingo!

Use the hardware monitoring utility provided by Biostar or VIA Technologies.

 

[HaroldW]

I have the M7VIG Pro along with an AMD XP 2000+ CPU (Palomino core) and a GlacialTech Igloo 2500 Pro HSF (moderate cooling). Whereas I consider a Volcano 9 (like you have OatMan) heavy duty cooling.

In the 6-8weeks I have been running it, I have not had any system problems whatsoever except for the one time I played with overclocking it. I was able to successfully overclock it to the equivelent of a 2200+ without increasing the core voltage.

With the board that I recieved, the onboard temperatures seem to read on the "high" side. I had the case open on a table top, in a room where the temperature was approx 22C or less, the case temp was reading 56C and the CPU temp 60C after about 30 minutes. I'm sure the actual case temp could not have been any more than 32C, absolute max. So, I am confident the CPU temp is in error also, especially since I had no problem overclocking it. I received similar temps with the temperature monitor program included with the motherboard, as well as three other monitor programs. In reading through a number of hardware forums around the internet, this seems to be a common problem with Biostar motherboards.

 

[Killrose]

Maybe the Biostar reads temps from the CPU core? But of course, that would'nt explain the high case temp readings. Looks like a future bios fix is in order.

 

[OatMan]

TD = Thermal Diode - Duh!

Thanks for the advice and info. After a clean 24 hours of Prime 95, I'm pretty comfy with this box. I tried just setting the FSB to 166 (hoping the 1/5 divider would mean an EZ OC) no go. Had to clear the BIOS. Oh well, i didn't get this board to OC, just thought since my B-Bred OC so well, I could get a "free" 400 MHz.

I'll try a 3rd party hardware monitoring tool for temps. Not concerned about it.

 

[adlep]

I have a similar temp reading problem. On my setup it shows that the temp of 1.2 Ghz Duron paired with GC69 with 80 mm fan is 60 degrees of C, which is a bull crap of course....

 

[BTSpope]

btw, about your svc gc69...what do ya think of it...im ready to can my dragon orb 3...i just cant stand the 7000rpm delta whine. The gc69 looks like a decent low noise cooler...any feedback?