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BIOS vcore, I feel a bit ripped off!

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It pains me to say that I've degraded my A8N with Venice to second in command🙂
I got myself a decent DFI board with an X2 4400+ and it's running 2x2750Mhz right now, Prime stable (Prime x2, on on each core) for over 24hrs.

I'll keep pushing Asus just out of principle but I doubt I'll ever buy Asus again.
By stating I'll keep pushing I mean.... If I have to keep pushing a year I will, if I have to call them I will, if I have to rant online i will etc etc.
 
small update,

I've sworn not to buy Asus products anymore(until they start improving support etc) and switched my interests to DFI.
I still have the A8N-E and am still mailing Asus support as a matter of principal but I don't suppose they're going to deliver what they should.
 
Have you tried an older core in the board? Sometimes the BIOS will have vcore maximums "follow" the default vcore, so that an older 130nm core with a higher default vcore may actually show 1.65v while a newer core that defaults to a lower vcore may only go up to 1.55v.

At least you have vcore! I've had an MSI mATX 865G board that had magically disappearing overclocking options in BIOS - every newer BIOS update removed some overclocking options until finally there were none left. Had another MSI board (865PE Platinum or something, the only black PCB that MSI made) that would not give vcore for Prescott CPUs but would for Northwoods.

Currently I have a Chaintech VNF3-250 that does not give vcore options at all if I use a 90nm Sempron but does with my 130nm A64. Funny thing is that people have reported that older BIOS revisions allowed for vcore but didn't recognize CPU "properly," though stuff still worked.
 
nope, I don't have an older core so I can't try but........ if the case is that the max vcore depends on the core they should state that in the specs/manual etc.
Your theory btw is a likely one but as I stated, if they spec 1.65v vcore without any variables relating to something like you mention (they also don't mention that in their reply) they should deliver the 1.65v vcore option.

It's nasty you lost the options completely, have you cleared cmos values? Are the OC options maybe in another menu which you access from the bios screen by pressing some other key?


Originally posted by: Zap
Have you tried an older core in the board? Sometimes the BIOS will have vcore maximums "follow" the default vcore, so that an older 130nm core with a higher default vcore may actually show 1.65v while a newer core that defaults to a lower vcore may only go up to 1.55v.

At least you have vcore! I've had an MSI mATX 865G board that had magically disappearing overclocking options in BIOS - every newer BIOS update removed some overclocking options until finally there were none left. Had another MSI board (865PE Platinum or something, the only black PCB that MSI made) that would not give vcore for Prescott CPUs but would for Northwoods.

Currently I have a Chaintech VNF3-250 that does not give vcore options at all if I use a 90nm Sempron but does with my 130nm A64. Funny thing is that people have reported that older BIOS revisions allowed for vcore but didn't recognize CPU "properly," though stuff still worked.
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Originally posted by: bozotheclown
nope, I don't have an older core so I can't try but........ if the case is that the max vcore depends on the core they should state that in the specs/manual etc.
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Perhaps they did state it properly... if the manual was printed before the newer CPUs came out. That may also be why it is no longer mentioned in the online (presumably updated) manuals.

As for missing vcore in my boards, those were all "known" issues that were not unique to myself.
 
the last version of the manual I checked when I started asking question and expected answers from Asus still mentioned the exact same vcore options in the same way.

When I purchased the board I first did an extensive search online and found several reviews in which the limit for the vcore was 1.65v, in other reviews only specs were mentioned and those pointed to 1.65v if they mentioned vcore at all. There was no article or post in a forum or discussion group found by google that mentioned a limitation less than the 1.65v.

When I purchased the board I first checked the online manual and when I went to the shop I looked in the manual before I actually purchased the board. I think I did my part in being informed about what I purchased and therefore by noonane can be blamed for expecting something I shouldn't expect.

Asus on it's part on this mattar states a higher vcore than 1.55v is dangarous! and sort of that developers use specs for toiletpaper so I shouldn't hope to get what I paid for.

To redirect I asked them why they offer more than 1.55v on other 754/959 boards that actually is more then 1.55v and they don't answer. On the question then why they don't change the manual/specs or at least the online pdf version of the manual they don't answer.

Now one can debate on how safe going over 1.55v is but bottom line is that if it is advertised as offering this functionality and advertised even more so as a oc functionrich board that the risc is the customers risc and if they change their mind they should offer me my money back or at least appologize for the mix up and they don't do anything.

Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: bozotheclown
nope, I don't have an older core so I can't try but........ if the case is that the max vcore depends on the core they should state that in the specs/manual etc.
Click to expand...

Perhaps they did state it properly... if the manual was printed before the newer CPUs came out. That may also be why it is no longer mentioned in the online (presumably updated) manuals.

As for missing vcore in my boards, those were all "known" issues that were not unique to myself.
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