Bin Ladin and Nukes - possible crossover from Mexico to US

[Night201]

Anyone have any links to this news story? It's something about Bin Ladin having nukes and bringing them into the US from Mexico...

 

[Fausto]

Here ya go.

 

[Night201]

Thanks!

 

[kage69]

This has been my nightmare for the last 5 years or so...

Gotta love these open borders and politicans so well-versed in 'strategery.'

 

[ReiAyanami]

fortunately they didn't use cargo ships where 5% of all containers are inspected making us safer. ABC was only able to smuggle uranium twice into both coasts for one of their news specials.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: kage69
This has been my nightmare for the last 5 years or so...

Gotta love these open borders and politicans so well-versed in 'strategery.'

It's been going on longer than 5 years. Mostly because if we really tried to close the borders properly all the liberal weenies would be crying about how unfair it was to dig a big ditch, build a wall, and arm the border to keep all the illegals out.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: kage69
This has been my nightmare for the last 5 years or so...

Gotta love these open borders and politicans so well-versed in 'strategery.'

It's been going on longer than 5 years. Mostly because if we really tried to close the borders properly all the liberal weenies would be crying about how unfair it was to dig a big ditch, build a wall, and arm the border to keep all the illegals out.

Or keep the Americans in 😛

Seriously, unless we close the borders entirely this can happen. Even then someone clever enough could pull it off.

 

[kage69]

It's been going on longer than 5 years. Mostly because if we really tried to close the borders properly all the liberal weenies would be crying about how unfair it was to dig a big ditch, build a wall, and arm the border to keep all the illegals out.

I didn't say it had only been going on for 5 years, I said I've been genuinely concerned over it for 5 years (at least) - please note the distinction.

I don't think I know any cons or libs who give a rat's ass about being perceived as fair. Our security, our call. In fact, come to think of it, all the libs I know share my stance on the US/Mexican border: seal it, and use the military to enforce it. Stereotypes are a bitch ain't they?

 

[f95toli]

Why would someone bring a bomb across the Mexican border?
It would be much easier to just hide it in a container and ship it from a "friendly" port.
Or maybe hide it on a ship and then just let the bomb go off in the harbor.

Or, you can just smuggle the uranium into the country and simply build the bomb in a small workshop somewhere, I don't think it would be very difficult to find the neccesary parts (even the explosives should be fairly easy to find).

Uranium should be easy to smuggle, just make to put enough lead to block the radiation (you don't need much lead for that, U235 is not very radioactive and is safe to handle even without protection) which might otherwise be detected.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: kage69
This has been my nightmare for the last 5 years or so...

Gotta love these open borders and politicans so well-versed in 'strategery.'

It's been going on longer than 5 years. Mostly because if we really tried to close the borders properly all the liberal weenies would be crying about how unfair it was to dig a big ditch, build a wall, and arm the border to keep all the illegals out.

Gee.. I do agree somewhat.. BUT I wonder what they are/would be whining worse about - 15000+ dead in Iraq and nearly 1500 dead American soldiers and $200,000,000 potentially wasted or securing our borders

The Republicans would probably be most pissed off becuase of the lack of cheap/slave labor.

 

[kage69]

Why would someone bring a bomb across the Mexican border?

Because they have an axe to grind with us, and the act is easy? 4000-6000 illegals cross EVERYDAY, and these are generally Mexican civilians. I'm quite sure any ex-military, or anyone with a mediocre measure of woodsmanship abilities, could handle the crossing with ease.

It would be much easier to just hide it in a container and ship it from a "friendly" port.

Easier, yes, preferrable no. The terrorists would relinquish control over the device in that case (not always desirable depending on the target). Also, detonation inside a container/ship could hamper the effects if the device isn't nuclear.

Or maybe hide it on a ship and then just let the bomb go off in the harbor.

Groups like al Qaeda tend to be concerned with targets bearing political, economic, and social importance (see WTC, Pentagon, White House, etc). If they're "going to go big," harbors would most likley be near the bottom of the list of potential targets.

Or, you can just smuggle the uranium into the country and simply build the bomb in a small workshop somewhere, I don't think it would be very difficult to find the neccesary parts (even the explosives should be fairly easy to find).

That is indeed a scenario many in goverment are concerned with...care to guess where they might be smuggled in from? HMX is really hard to detect, and as I recall we are missing quite a large supply of it from Iraq.

Uranium should be easy to smuggle, just make to put enough lead to block the radiation (you don't need much lead for that, U235 is not very radioactive and is safe to handle even without protection) which might otherwise be detected.

There are ingredients for bombs out there that are easier to procure, and easier to conceal, than uranium.

 

[Sysbuilder05]

Walk across the Rio Grande or just boat up to the Oregon coast its pretty easy either way.

Of course Moore showing in F 9/11 how easy it was in Oregon just had to be all lies,right??

 

[ReiAyanami]

giving the terrorists access to $500 million and IAEA grade explosives did not make us safer?

 

[jpeyton]

Did you guys see the 60 Minutes special with the ex-CIA bin Laden guy? He all but said that al-Qaeda's next attack will be nuclear and is inevitable.

His most haunting comment was towards the end, when he flamed the administration for portraying bin Laden as a back-alley thug.

The CBS guy then proceeded to ask him if he respected bin Laden, and the guy said "Until we respect him, we are going to die in numbers that are probably unnecessary."

 

[LunarRay]

Think oil...
OBL is going to try and hurt us economically... Oil... it is our current life blood. The Saudi ship us almost 18% of our imports and it is just a hop skip and a jump for them.
Target our reserves and our Alaska crude supply and Sally bar the door.... our economy will go bonkers.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Think oil...
OBL is going to try and hurt us economically... Oil... it is our current life blood. The Saudi ship us almost 18% of our imports and it is just a hop skip and a jump for them.
Target our reserves and our Alaska crude supply and Sally bar the door.... our economy will go bonkers.

That's exactly not how al-Qaeda would strike us. Blowing up a bunch of oil does not strike fear. Yes it hurts our economy, but so does a $200 billion war on terror.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Think oil...
OBL is going to try and hurt us economically... Oil... it is our current life blood. The Saudi ship us almost 18% of our imports and it is just a hop skip and a jump for them.
Target our reserves and our Alaska crude supply and Sally bar the door.... our economy will go bonkers.

That's exactly not how al-Qaeda would strike us. Blowing up a bunch of oil does not strike fear. Yes it hurts our economy, but so does a $200 billion war on terror.

He said he'd bleed us dry economically like he did the Soviets regarding Afghanistan in the transcript of his video. Least ways as I read it. Anyhow, the resulting deaths from this sort of an attack would be equal if not greater and much more real suffering.. think about it.. a deep deep recession beyond the Great Depression will hurt ALL of the Western Nations.. and that is what he said as well.. The US and their Allies.
He'd not bother China, Russia or the 'Stans' nor Sweden or up there.. Oil... Cut off just 50 percent of our imports and he'd win.

 

[raildogg]

we have to inspect most of the cargo that comes in, and we're not even close to that.