Bin Laden Said To Have Nuclear Weapons -'No Longer A Doubt'

vailr

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Bin Laden Said To Have Nuclear Weapons -'No Longer A Doubt'


<< The report says "both sides agree" that the Saudi terrorist managed to acquire his weapons by supporting the Chechen cause with money and volunteers, in exchange for nuclear materials and technology.

Bin Laden "received [it] from Chechen insurgents who raided [Russian] nuclear installations for fuel and components around the former Soviet Union," the report said.

"With that came the recruits from among scientists from the former Soviet Union. The rest was easy," said Geostrategy-Direct.com.
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jehh

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look at the source...

if he had them, they would have been used in NYC...

Jason
 

iamwiz82

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<< look at the source...

if he had them, they would have been used in NYC...

Jason
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i agree, if he was trying to do the worst to us, he would have used them. ANyways, suitcase nukes seem more likely.
 

Josh

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Actually, he might have been doing something smarter. Hijacking a plane is much less than buying a nuclear warhead, he could have hijacked those planes, crashed into the WTC. Knowing USA would probably retaliate, he'd wait for them to retaliate and then launch the nukes on us...makes sense...although I don't want it too :Q
 
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Suit case nukes are relativly low yield devices that by themselves could have caused as much damage as the two planes did.

Watch the movie The Peacemaker. That has a good example of what will happen next. Some wacko with a back pack could take out several city blocks
 

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just the same, i believe that geiger counters at the airport security would put me at ease more than anything else. i just thank God that ICBMs are extremely expensive to build and even more expensive to maintain, after all China only has about a dozen and North Korea was trying forever to make them.
 

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<< just the same, i believe that geiger counters at the airport security would >>

I would think that most nuclear devices would come into the country on boats. Powerful nuclear devices are bulky and would draw much attention. Weapons transported on boats could be ditched if need be and retrieved later.
 

tweakmm

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<< just the same, i believe that geiger counters at the airport security would >>

I would think that most nuclear devices would come into the country on boats. Powerful nuclear devices are bulky and would draw much attention. Weapons transported on boats could be ditched if need be and retrieved later.
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.... i hope that you mean smuggled on freighters. You don't mean on little boats do you? Do you have any idea how hard it would be to bring a small boat accross the ocean?
 

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<< Do you have any idea how hard it would be to bring a small boat accross the ocean? >>

Yes I do. ;)
 

iamwiz82

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<<

<< Do you have any idea how hard it would be to bring a small boat accross the ocean? >>

Yes I do. ;)
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as hard as it is to hijack 4 planes and kill a few thousand people.
 

tweakmm

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<< Yes I do. ;) >>


hm.... you didn't answer my question....
do you mean on a small boat or smuggled on frieghters?
 

tweakmm

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<<

<<

<< Do you have any idea how hard it would be to bring a small boat accross the ocean? >>

Yes I do. ;)
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as hard as it is to hijack 4 planes and kill a few thousand people.
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toche
(however the hell you spell it ;))
 

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>Explosive-laden raft rams U.S. Navy ship, 4 dead
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>> >DUBAI (Reuters) - An explosive-laden rubber raft slammed into a U.S.
>> >Navy destroyer in the Yemeni port of Aden on Thursday and four U.S.
>> >sailors were killed and one went missing, a U.S. Navy spokesman said.
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>> >Thirty-one sailors were reported injured, five of them seriously. "A
>> >U.S. army major saw a rubber raft run into the ship, causing the
>> >explosion," Lieutenant-Commander Daren Pelkie, spokesman for the U.S.
>> >Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, told Reuters.
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>> >Asked if the explosion was deliberate, he said: "We don't know why a
>> >rubber raft would be carrying explosives." He said no one had claimed
>> >responsibility for the blast.:Q
 

tweakmm

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<< >Explosive-laden raft rams U.S. Navy ship, 4 dead
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>> >DUBAI (Reuters) - An explosive-laden rubber raft slammed into a U.S.
>> >Navy destroyer in the Yemeni port of Aden on Thursday and four U.S.
>> >sailors were killed and one went missing, a U.S. Navy spokesman said.
>> >
>> >Thirty-one sailors were reported injured, five of them seriously. "A
>> >U.S. army major saw a rubber raft run into the ship, causing the
>> >explosion," Lieutenant-Commander Daren Pelkie, spokesman for the U.S.
>> >Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, told Reuters.
>> >
>> >Asked if the explosion was deliberate, he said: "We don't know why a
>> >rubber raft would be carrying explosives." He said no one had claimed
>> >responsibility for the blast.:Q
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uh.... thats about a rubber raft hitting a navy vessel on the COAST of yemen, it probably went about 2 miles, sticking to the coast. We are not talking about a rubber raft going accross the atlanic ocean...
 

Syringer

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No matter what...nuclear warfare is not good news. Imagine the nuclear fallout! Damn people should consider the consequences of nuclear warfare. We should have gotten rid of those nukes ... Damn!
 

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At this point in time, nuclear weapons are not really a huge threat. Consider the possibility of a chemical attack.

-Human "suicide" host, carrying lethal, undetectable virus. Can pass through all checkpoints, searches, etc.

-Spread in airplane-->airport-->cities--->massive death, no damage to infrastructure.

American would be ripe for the picking, its an unstoppable attack. The end of America is certain, if not this decade, certainly within most of our lifetimes. Thats why I spend all my money on new computer parts now rather than wait....
 

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The 'suitcase' or backpack nukes were originally developed to take out bridges in Europe. So as to deter the old Red Army advance.

From our perspective, a tactical weapon under two-person control. Executive order required to detonate.

Should Bin Laden have them, I'd think he would have used them already.

Here, unfortunately.

However, I'd venture to say the chances of motivated terrorists obtaining such weapons are not as difficult as many believe. Particularly with the fall of the former USSR and the reports of missing NW.

This is a subject which the world must address with the highest priority.
 

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<< uh.... thats about a rubber raft hitting a navy vessel on the COAST of yemen, it probably went about 2 miles, sticking to the coast. We are not talking about a rubber raft going accross the atlanic ocean... >>

I Know This. They would probably transfer a device from a large freighter to a smaller craft. The point of posting this Newsclip is to show the element of suprise. All of the attacks that have been made have been crude yet quite effective. Nobody expected a raft to contain explosives or civilian airliners to be used as a weapons.(or a small craft to contain a cache of nuclear or biological / chemical weapons)
 

dman

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I don't know about the germ warfare. Wouldn't the effects make their way back to other countries and even, perhaps, the host. If the vast majority of the world died from a chemical warfare, what would be the point? I mean, the person who releases it PROBABLY has a motive other than killing everyone in the world. Then again, some folks are just pyscho, so, maybe not?

Or, maybe the biological weapons have a cure that only the attacker knows about or has access to. I guess in that case they might be motivated to use one. It's just a matter of time before we're all history.



:Q
 

Scouzer

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<< At this point in time, nuclear weapons are not really a huge threat. Consider the possibility of a chemical attack.

-Human "suicide" host, carrying lethal, undetectable virus. Can pass through all checkpoints, searches, etc.

-Spread in airplane-->airport-->cities--->massive death, no damage to infrastructure.

American would be ripe for the picking, its an unstoppable attack. The end of America is certain, if not this decade, certainly within most of our lifetimes. Thats why I spend all my money on new computer parts now rather than wait....
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Don't talk like that :(

I'm 14 and damn well hoping I got at least 60 years left in me.... :( :(
 

Aihyah

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isn't the point to keep their asses against the wall so they dont have the funds to coordinate something massive like the wtc strike?
 

freebee

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Actually, after some further thought, the terrorists we are currently dealing with have a political and emotional motive behind their attacks. As a result, weapons of mass destruction, explosives, etc. are likely choices. They make a large impact on the psyche of the American people.

Chemical and biological weapons are a method of global warfare for conquest, where large numbers of people can be killed but existing structures are not harmed (useful for occupation). They don't do much in terms of psychological horror as people usual die before they know what hit them. Such weapons would be developed to act quickly and disperse, so it would only spread in an estimated radius allowing the enemy to move in soon after.