[bin Laden] Has Secured Religious Approval To Use A Nuclear Bomb Against Americans

[conjur]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

FORMER HEAD OF CIA'S OSAMA BIN LADEN UNIT SAYS THE QAEDA LEADER HAS SECURED RELIGIOUS APPROVAL TO USE A NUCLEAR BOMB AGAINST AMERICANS
Fri Nov 12 2004 12:02:34 ET

Osama bin Laden now has religious approval to use a nuclear device against Americans, says the former head of the CIA unit charged with tracking down the Saudi terrorist. The former agent, Michael Scheuer, speaks to Steve Kroft in his first television interview without disguise to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Nov. 14 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Scheuer was until recently known as the "anonymous" author of two books critical of the West's response to bin Laden and al Qaeda, the most recent of which is titled Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror. No one in the West knows more about the Qaeda leader than Scheuer, who has tracked him since the mid-1980s. The CIA allowed him to write the books provided he remain anonymous, but now is allowing him to reveal himself for the first time on Sunday's broadcast; he formally leaves the Agency today (12).

Even if bin Laden had a nuclear weapon, he probably wouldn't have used it for a lack of proper religious authority - authority he has now. "[Bin Laden] secured from a Saudi sheik...a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans," says Scheuer. "[The treatise] found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans," Scheuer tells Kroft.

Scheuer says bin Laden was criticized by some Muslims for the 9/11 attack because he killed so many people without enough warning and before offering to help convert them to Islam. But now bin Laden has addressed the American people and given fair warning. "They're intention is to end the war as soon as they can and to ratchet up the pain for the Americans until we get out of their region....If they acquire the weapon, they will use it, whether it's chemical, biological or some sort of nuclear weapon," says Scheuer.

As the head of the CIA unit charged with tracking bin Laden from 1996 to 1999, Scheuer says he never had enough people to do the job right. He blames former CIA Director George Tenet. "One of the questions that should have been asked of Mr. Tenet was why were there always enough people for the public relations office, for the academic outreach office, for the diversity and multi-cultural office? All those things are admirable and necessary but none of them are protecting the American people from a foreign threat," says Scheuer.

And the threat posed by bin Laden is also underestimated, says Scheuer. "I think our leaders over the last decade have done the American people a disservice...continuing to characterize Osama bin Laden as a thug, as a gangster," he says. "Until we respect him, sir, we are going to die in numbers that are probably unnecessary, yes. He's a very, very talented man and a very worthy opponent," he tells Kroft.

Until today (12), Scheuer was a senior official in the CIA's counter terrorism unit and a special advisor to the head of the agency's bin Laden unit.

Developing...

Bush on bin Laden: "I'm truly not that concerned about him."

 

[DanJ]

Due to this news, I believe it is now time to invade North Korea.

Don't try to follow the logic. We will destroy Bin Laden and his network by attacking NK.

Just as we did in Iraq.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Ending the world is always good.

 

[Infohawk]

So if all the claims are true that he plans to target US states that voted for Bush, is he going to target a red state?

 

[jpeyton]

:shocked: Uh oh!

 

[Chadder007]

But I thought Islam was a peaceful religion.....

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

And just what do you propose doing with our nukes? Dropping them on innocents around the world??

Originally posted by: Chadder007
But I thought Islam was a peaceful religion.....

Same as Christianity or Judaism. But, when distorted by fanatics, it is no longer representatives of the true teachings.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Haha, that's fresh. If Bin Laden nuked the US, we'd have to sit with our thumbs up our asses. Sorry, but Afghanistan was already invaded in 2001.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

Don't you wish we had a goatse emoticon for these situations?

 

[dahunan]

Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

 

[smashp]

my prediction is Atlanta or Houston

 

[magomago]

The heck is religous approval? So if I go to someone that supports my views and have them write an essay on why i can nuke you, i should be able to? B.S. Because one nutcase agrees with another, doesn't mean the religion "lends approval"~ perhaps in their interpretation of it.

And futhemore, America is responsible for deaths? America has killed Muslims, every European Nation has killed Muslims, Countries with Muslim populations have attacked other countries and killed Muslims in other countries~ Iraq and Iran should be nuked because both countries fought an eight year war, China should be nuked because its tried to repress its large Muslim population (that by estaimtes represent 10% of the population). If we follow this logic, then we are responsible for Christian deaths around the world, and Hindu deaths, and any freaking religion out there~

We have bad policies that are very inconsistent and backwards in the Middle East and that should be something that is addressed, because it is leading to the death of many in innocent people in the Middle East. Obviously this is where their anger is coming from. But that does not mean that Millions of innocents on this side should also be killed because that means that they are stooping down to...wait...this is Bin Laden :

Either way its ridiculous to point at a single nation and say they are at fault. The current situation in the Mid East does have the United States playing a LARGE role, but it isn't the ONLY reason things are crapped up. IF all US troops did leave the Mid East (Which i would like to see, probably will happen when oil runs out) I don't forsee everything getting better overnight. Like I said earlier, using Bin Laden's logic nukes should be going off everywhere in the world.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

Right, he isn't concerned with just one man but All of the terrorists.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: dahunan
Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

Right, he isn't concerned with just one man but All of the terrorists.

Just so happens this one mean is their leader and is the most-wanted man on Earth.

Nice mexed missage to send to terrorists. Bomb the US and live free.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

Nope. We should play their game. if its okay to kill americans in revenge for us killing muslims.The that logic also follows the other way around. In other words good bye tehran.He does it again. We bomb the dome of the rock...he does it again strike mecca.I have no problem turning the arbain penisula into a blood stained scar on the earth. ...If they strike massively first. And and spare me that if we all take an eye for an eye we will all be blind crap.If the he strikes in this regard the people of the muslim world should have a sense of dread in their heart..If they dont turn him they will have to take the brunt of the punsishment until the Muslim world realizes they must turn him in or they risk extiction.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: dahunan
Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

Right, he isn't concerned with just one man but All of the terrorists.

bin Laden has the power to influence legions of extremist Muslims to do his bidding. He single-handedly brings money, infamy, and foot soldiers to al-Qaeda's cause.

Would al-Qaeda disappear without bin Laden? Probably not. But similar to a cult, killing or capturing their leader has a negative affect on the cult members. And when the members want to destroy your country, that would make the leader a priority target.

To everyone except Bush. He kept us on a leash with terror during his first term, and keeping bin Laden alive will allow more of the same.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

If bin Laden is going to kill innocent civilians nilly-willy, why should we be concerned about doing the same? His attack would have no strategic value either so why should our retaliation?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

If bin Laden is going to kill innocent civilians nilly-willy, why should we be concerned about doing the same? His attack would have no strategic value either so why should our retaliation?

Because bin Laden does not represent the Middle East. By your logic, we should be as open to nuking Sweden if bin Laden nukes us.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

If bin Laden is going to kill innocent civilians nilly-willy, why should we be concerned about doing the same? His attack would have no strategic value either so why should our retaliation?

It's that mindset that was behind the abuses at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib.

To paraphrase the words of John McCain: We must be better than that.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: dahunan
Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

Right, he isn't concerned with just one man but All of the terrorists.

bin Laden has the power to influence legions of extremist Muslims to do his bidding. He single-handedly brings money, infamy, and foot soldiers to al-Qaeda's cause.

Would al-Qaeda disappear without bin Laden? Probably not. But similar to a cult, killing or capturing their leader has a negative affect on the cult members. And when the members want to destroy your country, that would make the leader a priority target.

To everyone except Bush. He kept us on a leash with terror during his first term, and keeping bin Laden alive will allow more of the same.

Bush kept us on a leash with terror? Yet we see liberals posting crap stories like this.

In case you weren't aware, bin Laden reportedly had a nuke or nukes back in the 90s and was going to use them as well. Damn Clinton, always trying to scare us. :roll:

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

Nope. We should play their game. if its okay to kill americans in revenge for us killing muslims.The that logic also follows the other way around. In other words good bye tehran.He does it again. We bomb the dome of the rock...he does it again strike mecca.I have no problem turning the arbain penisula into a blood stained scar on the earth. ...If they strike massively first. And and spare me that if we all take an eye for an eye we will all be blind crap.If the he strikes in this regard the people of the muslim world should have a sense of dread in their heart..If they dont turn him they will have to take the brunt of the punsishment until the Muslim world realizes they must turn him in or they risk extiction.

Sorry, but the President does not have the power to retaliate out of anger, even though some of his ilk wish he did.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Seems like quite the losing proposition for Muslims in the long run. We have way more nukes than they and I think few Americans would have any compunctions about turning the entire Arab world into glass should bin Laden unleash a nuke in America.

Except since he has no home country and they are ashawdow group, their would be no stategic value to just nuking a part of the muslim world, only the revenge aspect, and it would create more problems for the US internationally.

Nope, we would just have to sit back and take it.

Nope. We should play their game. if its okay to kill americans in revenge for us killing muslims.The that logic also follows the other way around. In other words good bye tehran.He does it again. We bomb the dome of the rock...he does it again strike mecca.I have no problem turning the arbain penisula into a blood stained scar on the earth. ...If they strike massively first. And and spare me that if we all take an eye for an eye we will all be blind crap.If the he strikes in this regard the people of the muslim world should have a sense of dread in their heart..If they dont turn him they will have to take the brunt of the punsishment until the Muslim world realizes they must turn him in or they risk extiction.

The Problem with your Logic of Ignorance is that ALL muslims arent located in the Arabian Pennisula. Plus Tehran is part of IRAN and is a different beast all to gether. Plus blow up the dome of the rock and see how long the Jews are on your Side.

Its religious intolorance and hate you possess. KILL WE MUST KILL.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: dahunan
Who cares... Bush is not concerned with Bin laden

Right, he isn't concerned with just one man but All of the terrorists.

bin Laden has the power to influence legions of extremist Muslims to do his bidding. He single-handedly brings money, infamy, and foot soldiers to al-Qaeda's cause.

Would al-Qaeda disappear without bin Laden? Probably not. But similar to a cult, killing or capturing their leader has a negative affect on the cult members. And when the members want to destroy your country, that would make the leader a priority target.

To everyone except Bush. He kept us on a leash with terror during his first term, and keeping bin Laden alive will allow more of the same.

Bush kept us on a leash with terror? Yet we see liberals posting crap stories like this.

In case you weren't aware, bin Laden reportedly had a nuke or nukes back in the 90s and was going to use them as well. Damn Clinton, always trying to scare us. :roll:

Well regardless of what you think about political pandering, Bush will never have the authorization to use nuclear weapons on a soveriegn and innocent nation. The parking lot of glass theory is as much of a crap story as any.