Bill proposes zero tolerence of driving under influence of drugs, prescriptions

FelixDeCat

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Sounds like common sense to me. Why should you take the wheel if you are impaired by substances like weed?
 

gevorg

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All prescription drugs? That's like most of the population. Antidepressants alone are taken by 1 in 10.
 

IGBT

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good. All you's SSRI dopers have been getting away with murder. Especially when you consider a great bunch of you are drunks / dope smokers along with your SSRI jones. You don't know if you are coming or going or been there already.
 

OverVolt

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You know this would apply to something like benedryl but if you take it everyday it doesn't affect your ability to drive since that side effect goes away over time.

Rather fail bill. Scary someone could go to jail for taking benedryl for allergies.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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good. All you's SSRI dopers have been getting away with murder. Especially when you consider a great bunch of you are drunks / dope smokers along with your SSRI jones. You don't know if you are coming or going or been there already.

Sorry but people who are taking prescription medications are exempted. Might want to read the article first.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You know this would apply to something like benedryl but if you take it everyday it doesn't affect your ability to drive since that side effect goes away over time.

Rather fail bill. Scary someone could go to jail for taking benedryl for allergies.

It looks like taking medicine isn't the trigger but being "under the influence" meaning impaired.
 

ch33zw1z

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It this is enforced like driving under the influence alcohol is, then we'll still have problems and repeat offenders. So, whatever..Pass the field sobriety test, move along..
 

shortylickens

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All prescription drugs? That's like most of the population. Antidepressants alone are taken by 1 in 10.

You'd have a hard time proving they screw up your driving ability (in a court).

But yeah, a catch-all bill with no application of good sense is not going to fix any problems.

I find it amusing california wants to crack down on some things, and allow other things to roam free.
Thats a weird state.
 

ch33zw1z

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From the article:

"It took us decades to pound into people that you should not drink and drive," Correa said.

Oh yea, you guys have done a bang up job stopping drunk driving. You must be high..
 

ch33zw1z

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good. All you's SSRI dopers have been getting away with murder. Especially when you consider a great bunch of you are drunks / dope smokers along with your SSRI jones. You don't know if you are coming or going or been there already.

that's the good shit, bro.
 

zsdersw

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Excellent... the law enforcement we have can't catch all the drunk drivers as it is, and now they're going to have to watch for people who are stoned or otherwise "under the influence" too?

Flawless plan, you dipshits. :rolleyes:
 

Darwin333

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The way we "test" drunk/impaired drivers is patently retarded. We use bullshit arbitrary BAC tests that only tell us that some people would be impaired NOT that the actual driver was actually impaired.

I must believe that this is for a reason because it would be rediculously easy to come up with a better test that would impartially test if a driver was impaired regardless of why they were impaired. It could be done on the roadside and would be as quick and easy as current procedures. Hell, let me pick a handful of people from Anandtech and with a very small budget I guarantee we could have something up and running in a month.

Absent anything else, I have to believe that this is just another way to pick the pockets of their electorate.
 

Darwin333

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You'd have a hard time proving they screw up your driving ability (in a court).

But yeah, a catch-all bill with no application of good sense is not going to fix any problems.

I find it amusing california wants to crack down on some things, and allow other things to roam free.
Thats a weird state.

As I said in a previous post, it is much worse than not fixing any problems. It actually creates MORE problems while overlooking the actual fix. Even worse is the actual fix would work across the board, be fair, and be easy for both LEO and civilians. To top it off, it would end almost all cases of people going through a metric ton of bullshit when they weren't really impaired and it would prevent people from getting away with actually driving impaired. Funny how they didn't choose that option.
 

runzwithsizorz

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You'd have a hard time proving they screw up your driving ability (in a court).

But yeah, a catch-all bill with no application of good sense is not going to fix any problems.

I find it amusing california wants to crack down on some things, and allow other things to roam free.
Thats a weird state.

You'd have a MUCH HARDER TIME proving they did NOT screw up your driving ability in a court!
If the courts with their unlimited resources, expert witnesses, charts, graphs, and 8x10 glossy photos said you were impaired with aspirin, you
WOULD be guilty as charged.
 

hal2kilo

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It this is enforced like driving under the influence alcohol is, then we'll still have problems and repeat offenders. So, whatever..Pass the field sobriety test, move along..

Taking a field sobriety test is a legal loser. Nothing to gain if you are sober but are uncoordinated. Never again.
 

ch33zw1z

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Taking a field sobriety test is a legal loser. Nothing to gain if you are sober but are uncoordinated. Never again.

Should you be operating a motor vehicle is you're that uncoordinated?

LEO's use the FST as one part of determining whether or not you're impaired..
 

airdata

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Sounds like common sense to me. Why should you take the wheel if you are impaired by substances like weed?

I'd be willing to bet that your average stoner drives much safer than your average asshole weaving lane to lane w\ no signal, putting everybody at risk to get 1 car length ahead in the herd.

These are the drivers that account for most wrecks & traffic fatilities. It's just that with drugs they have something to blame other than stupidity.

Stupidity is still king though.
 

nanette1985

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Isn't this already illegal? I do know that with some of my meds, my doc is required to report that I'm on them. No idea who doc is required to report to.
 

OverVolt

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Zero tolerance is also zero common sense. Can't believe someone supported a zero tolerance law on the grounds of "has some common sense seems legit"

LOL